Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dawn-Marie Wesley


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The result was Move to Dawn-Marie Wesley suicide. Non admin closure. Jorvik 21:04, 15 July 2007 (UTC)

Dawn-Marie Wesley

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Non-notable suicide victim. Since notability criteria exclude individuals that are notable only for a single news event, fails WP:BIO. Valrith 21:52, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. Very sad, but non notable. Poorly written article doesn't even give a time point of reference. Bendž|Ť 22:10, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, agree completly with Bendzh. Callelinea 22:33, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep, Rename and revise or merge to Rats & Bullies: The Dawn-Marie Wesley Story. The individual was not notable before three bullies drove her to commit suicide. This tragedy became notable when two of the bullies were tried and convicted, and when a documentary film was made about it. The CBC reference says "The trial drew widespread attention to the role of the courts in dealing with school bullying cases across the country." It was also featured on the Oprah show as one of two instances of "bullycide" and has been discussed in a number of published source over the 6 years since the death. It was discussed in the  Legislative Assembly (2002 Legislative Session: 3rd Session, 37th Parliament, March 26, 2002, under "Bulleying prevention ." But we normally have an article about the crime and its implications for society, rather than a memorial article about the victim.Perhaps it could be restyled Dawn-Marie Wesley suicide, similar to the common "John Jones murder case" although that would invite more memorial articles about other suicides which lacked the notable features of this one.    Edison 23:45, 9 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep on the basis of Edison's argument. When individual stories that are not inherently notable per se become used by national news sources as an example, the incident becomes notable. When they get repeated attention over a period of years, and in particular legislative attention they are certainly notable enough for an encyclopedia. DGG (talk) 00:17, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep. It's generally Wikipedia precedent that murder victims who become the impetus for legislation and have a bill named after them are notable. Although bills aren't named in Canada like they are in the US, her name was tied to the bill in the same way that Megan Kanka's was to Megan's Law, so despite being a suicide I can see that she has some claim to notability. Her name is also somewhat known in Canada, especially to people over about 35, and she may pass WP:BIO on that alone. -- Charlene 00:44, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep in some form as per Edison, but better as an article on the incident and its results rather than on the person. Davewild 17:07, 10 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Canada-related deletions.   -- John Vandenberg 04:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge with Rats & Bullies: The Dawn-Marie Wesley Story. Her suicide is the only thing she is noted for, so guidelines in this case would support merging the article on her and documentary based on her situation. Either way, she is not notable enough to have 2 articles, no matter how sad her death is. Lrrr IV 06:02, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: The Rats & Bullies documentary appears notable in its own right. And having one article serve as a bio, an event and a film about the event is difficult to categorize precisely. Canuckle 19:38, 11 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename to Dawn-Marie Wesley suicide as per Edison. The Rats & Bullies documentary claims the case led to "two precedent setting cases by Canada's Provincial court in which the bullies were held accountable for their threats. Due to this and other similar cases, the term "bullycide" has been established". Canuckle 19:36, 11 July 2007 (UTC)
 * keep per DGG. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 17:38, 15 July 2007 (UTC)


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