Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dawn Ralph


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was No consensus (default keep).  Jerry  talk ¤ count/logs 23:14, 27 March 2008 (UTC)

Dawn Ralph

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Non-notable person; only editor doesn't seem to know or care what the requirements are - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 19:33, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails notability criteria for singers -- heck, for anything at all. Doesn't seem to be the subject of any sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 19:51, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with St Winifred's School Choir, not notable enough for her own page but the choir seems notable. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells•Otter chirps) 21:08, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete unless any of it can be evidenced using external sources, in which case merge them with St Winifred's School Choir and then delete anyway. -- Roleplayer (talk) 21:50, 13 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete An uncredited contributor to a song recorded by a school choir does not pass the requirements for WP:N of a member of a group. Appeared briefly as a talking-head on a couple of one-hit-wonder/worst-songs-ever list-type C4 TV shows a few years back, which may account for editor's assertion of notability in the hope than some of us were watching. Plutonium27 (talk) 21:22, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Did any of you people piling on with your delete comments even bother to check for sources? It only took me a few seconds to find the ones that I just added to the article. Of course the lead singer on a Christmas number one is notable. Hers is a voice that everyone in the UK over about 35 would recognise, even if most of us would be too embarrassed to admit it. Phil Bridger (talk) 22:16, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
 * I still don't think it matters - the artist at the time wasn't "Dawn Ralph and the St Winifred's School Choir", it was "St Winifred's School Choir", therefore, seeing as you have provided references, I say merge with St Winifred's School Choir. -- Roleplayer (talk) 23:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so that consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Keeper   |   76   |  Disclaimer  21:04, 19 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Has sources per above. Catchpole (talk) 21:14, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep reliable sources...--Camaeron (t/c) 21:45, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge with St Winifred's School Choir, subject does not have independent notability. Half the article is explaining how happy she is NOT being in the music business. --Dhartung | Talk 22:09, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment. You have shown in that comment that the article is about her, rather than the choir, so you are in fact giving an argument in favour of independent notability. Phil Bridger (talk) 09:43, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment I think that Dhartung is talking about the Wikipedia article, not about any article that is used as a source.--FreeKresge (talk) 16:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Merge with St Winifred's School Choir. BRMo (talk) 22:35, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. She's already mentioned in the choir's article, and the only sourced information in this article (other than her role as soloist with the choir) is that she is married and has a child, which hardly seems worth merging. I could also support a redirect without merging. Deor (talk) 22:37, 19 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge & Delete - subject herself is not independently notable, redirect unnecessary. Merge any relevant info into parent article.  /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 03:00, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to St Winifred's School Choir. The two sources are really about the choir, not about her.  It is possible that some of this information could be merged into the article on the choir.--FreeKresge (talk) 16:35, 20 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge The Choir seems notable enough. -- Shark face  217  02:59, 21 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete. The topic isn't encylopedic enough. Dwilso  18:58, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. Encyclopedic and notable enough for Wikipedia.  Best, --  Le Grand Roi des Citrouilles  Tally-ho! 04:36, 24 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Some very divergent opinions on this AfD! I will go for Merge and Redirect to St Winifred's School Choir, as this person does not appear to be notable outside of her achievements with that group.  Lankiveil (speak to me) 12:26, 25 March 2008 (UTC).
 * Merge and redirect to St Winifred's School Choir, seems to be notable more distinctly as a choir .--@ the $un$hine . (talk) 23:04, 27 March 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.