Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Daya Jethalal Gada


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters. The "keep" opinions do not address the reasons for deletion and the issue of source quality.  Sandstein  12:16, 16 November 2018 (UTC)

Daya Jethalal Gada

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Fails MOS:TVCAST or Manual_of_Style/Writing_about_fiction. Treats character a real person with in-universe information. Covered in List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters already. Lacks information on in real world sense such as role, development, themes, critical reception etc. In-universe information is already covered in Characters article so I propose merge and redirect to that article. See also Articles for deletion/Jethalal Gada which was his co-star and similar type of problems. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 11:18, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - Very popular and notable character,  ,  .. and hundreads of more sources can be given.. --Adamstraw99 (talk) 11:42, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Hi Adamstraw99, I am sure this character has refs related to the coverage of the serial. That coverage only allows the mention of this character in the serial page or the list of characters. Only if a character has received multiple coverage independent of the serial in reliable sources can it merit a separate article. -- D Big X ray ᗙ  11:53, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment I would have to agree with DBigXray, and I think it would be helpful to link to further sources. I am not disagreeing with the keep voter, but just offering some advice. Aoba47 (talk) 04:20, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment, , , more sources. -Hamim000000 (talk) 06:13, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for the additional sources. Aoba47 (talk) 19:04, 25 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , all above sources are about Disha Vakani who plays the character of Daya Jethalal Gada. There no information on the character itself. Please note it. Fictional character needs references on it in "real-world" sense to have its own article. Above references do not provide it. Thank you,-Nizil (talk) 16:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Thank you for your message. I agree with you to an extent. I think that sources on the actress in relation to the character (i.e. casting, their approach to the character, etc.) could be useful, though I agree that more sources directly about the character itself are necessary to address the notability concerns raised in this AfD. I am doubtful that the above sources are enough to support the character having a separate article, though I think it is moving the discussion in a better direction than the more generic "popularity" arguments. I am uncertain about how to vote, as I am uncertain how the language barrier would impact things (I am an American/English native speaker who has never heard of this character or program before). If I had to cast a vote either way, I would argue that a redirect would be more appropriate than deletion. I think it would be helpful to see the keep voters link to articles about the character itself to support their argument better. Aoba47 (talk) 18:49, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:33, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fictional elements-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 11:34, 22 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Keep- I agree with @'s statement. Hamim000000 (talk) 12:16, 22 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep- Definitely Popular. Exploreandwrite (talk) 07:15, 26 October 2018 (UTC)
 * ,,, the character is popular but there is little real world information in references to create separate article on the character. The references and article provide almost no information in real world sense. All information is "in-universe" information. Please provide strong references on real-world information like role, development, themes and critical reception of the character. Fictional character needs all these to have its own independent article else List article already covers it. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 16:44, 30 October 2018 (UTC)
 * Since some people are hell-bent on seeing the "evidence" of the obvious, here --Adamstraw99 (talk) 22:15, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: The "keep" arguments here don't help with a decision, as they relate to popularity rather than notability. Arguments which address the amount of out-of-universe reference material available would help.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Seraphimblade Talk to me 04:41, 31 October 2018 (UTC)
 * , the reference you provided: 5 reasons why you're daya of taarak mehta have nothing on out-of-universe information on this fictional character. I have specifically asked for references on the role, development, themes and critical reception of this fictional character. There are many references on "in-universe" information but we need "real-world" information to have separate article on this fictional character. Please provide such references. Popularity is not questioned, notability to have separate article is questioned. We already have an article on the list of characters of the show.-Nizil (talk) 06:09, 31 October 2018 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep The Character is very well known in Indian Television. Swim45 (talk) 07:51, 3 November 2018 (UTC)
 * , please see my comments above. Please also read relisting comment. Popularity is not an issue, lack of real-world information is an issue. Regards,-Nizil (talk) 15:16, 3 November 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: As noted in the previous relist, the current Keep !votes have not discussed "real-world" information

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Nosebagbear (talk) 22:27, 6 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect to List of Taarak Mehta Ka Ooltah Chashmah characters and merge the references to the subsection about the character. I have previously participated in this AfD, but I have chosen to cast a vote to help out. Since none of the "keep" voters have provided further sources on the actual character itself, I do not believe there is enough notability for a stand-alone article. The fact that she is a popular character can be summed up in a short sentence include in the list. This could be a viable search and there is a viable redirect target so I think a redirect is preferable over outright deletion. Aoba47 (talk) 03:01, 9 November 2018 (UTC)
 * Redirect per . Sources exist but they're low-quality when it comes to establishing independent, out-of-universe notability.    SITH   (talk)   13:56, 14 November 2018 (UTC)


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