Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dayne Walling (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Flowerparty ☀ 00:02, 30 June 2009 (UTC)

Dayne Walling
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Campaign-style bio of a candidate for municipal office, which fails WP:POLITICIAN. All sources present are blog entries, self-published content on his own website and articles which mention the candidate only in passing, thus failing to meet the criterion of substantial coverage. Previously prodded, but prod notice was removed by creator. Note also that an earlier version was speedied in 2007, but I don't think we can speedy this as a "recreation of deleted material" since the fact that he's a mayoral candidate in this year's election, while still weak as a claim of notability, is substantively different from the 2007 version. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 17:52, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete - The burnden of WP:POLITICIAN is "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject of the article." In this case, almost all of the sources fail WP:RS and there is no indication of true notability.  I also note some WP:COATRACKing going on... / /Blaxthos ( t / c ) 18:11, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Does not meet notability requirements and is a promotion attempt. Triplestop (talk) 19:29, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 19:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 19:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Michigan-related deletion discussions.  KuyaBriBri Talk 19:51, 22 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Flint is a sizable city and the article contains refs to MLive.com, which is a reliable source. He's also been covered by the ABC affiliate: .  I don't see a notability problem here.Dino Velvet 8MM (talk) 04:30, 23 June 2009 (UTC)
 * The MLive references aren't about him; they just mention him in passing while actually being about something or someone else, which isn't the same thing and fails our rules. Bearcat (talk) 04:43, 23 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep There are additional articles referenced about Dayne from Mlive.com, a reliable source, where the stories are "about" versus "mentioning" him. Also, just go on google news and google Dayne Walling, you'll find plenty of articles supporting this. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Adayan (talk • contribs)
 * Delete. It would be doubtful whether the mayor of a city the size of Flint would be notable, so just being a candidate certainly doesn't make for notability, and there's no claim of anything like notability outside the mayoral candidacy. The sources to mlive.com appear to be blog entries. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:32, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep (see etiquette statement below. Philosopher Let us reason together. ) The mlive.com blog posts are written by Flint Journal staff writers and often are used to publish stories that don't always make the paper issue of the Flint Journal. They also use the blogs to post stories they've contributed that may have been placed farther back in the paper issue.--Adayan (talk) 19:39, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep (the etiquette at deletion discussions is for each editor to give no more than one bolded "keep" or "delete" statement) Also, why do state level politicians warrant notability? They simply represent the same geographic area that a mayor represents in the particular case of Flint, MI.  Walling warrants notability simply due to significant press coverage, per WP:POLITICIAN--Adayan (talk) 20:19, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. You might have some argument there for having an article about the mayor of Flint, but this is only about a candidate for the position. I really don't think that articles that don't make it to the print edition, or only get to page 94, of a small-town newspaper can be considered to establish notability. Please carry on your campaign in more appropriate places than an encyclopedia. That will be a better use of all those dollars that your candidate has raised. Phil Bridger (talk) 20:42, 24 June 2009 (UTC)
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