Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dayspring Campground Ministries


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 00:59, 1 August 2012 (UTC)

Dayspring Campground Ministries

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The organisation is non-notable. The editor who created the article admits that "very little has been written about it." Google news has exactly zero coverage. The article appears promotional, is written from a religious POV and unverifiable claims are made. Smcg8374 (talk) 01:10, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

The faith-based philosophy section was edited to remove bias, stating religious assumptions as existing from the ministry's POV. Regarding the question of significance: if significance is only measured based on online and print citations, then yes, this camp is insignificant. I would argue that based on its length of operation, number of campers served, etc, that it is significant even though it has a nonexistent web presence. What kind of sources are necessary to prove significance? Typative (talk) 3:30, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Third party reliable sources independent of the subject. Newspaper articles, books, scholarly papers, etc. See WP:RS and WP:GNG.--SGCM (talk)  18:01, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Just to be clear, notability is not the same as "significance" in a social sense. When editors say that an organisation is not notable according to Wikipedia guidelines, this is not intended to imply in any way that the organisation is trivial or unimportant. Rather what this means is that to be included in an encyclopaedia it must have been written about by people who are not involved with it. This is a core principle that applies to all subjects. See for example, WP:NOBLE.--Smcg8374 (talk) 01:07, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


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 * Delete. Article does not meet WP:ORG notability criteria. There's no coverage by reliable third party sources, and the article appears to be an advertisement.--SGCM (talk)  05:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete, no evidence of notability from third-party WP:RS. -- Kinu  t/c 19:32, 27 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Tend towards delete -- A holiday park with a Christian view hardly seems notable. Peterkingiron (talk) 16:55, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
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