Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/De Echoput


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep. User:Tinton5 withdrew the nomination for deletion. All !votes are clearly to keep the article. Disclosure: I have made two edits to the article, but I do not have a vested interest in it. (Non-administrative closure). Northamerica1000 (talk) 17:21, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

De Echoput

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Non-notable, run of the mill restaurant, not widely known. Most sources are in Dutch. Tinton5 (talk) 02:31, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep A restaurant holding a Michelin star run of the mill, I don't think so. About the Dutch sources: are you familiar with WP:NONENG and WP:GNG (states: Sources are not required to be available online, and they are not required to be in English.) and WP:ORG (States in the footnotes: Inclusion in "best of", "top 100", and similar lists generally does not count towards notability, unless the list itself is so notable that each entry can be presumed notable. Examples of the latter include the Fortune 500 or a Michelin Guide to restaurants.)? Night of the Big Wind  talk  02:51, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think Michelin star is sufficient notability without more. --Legis (talk - contribs) 03:04, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions.  Logan Talk Contributions 05:23, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Food and drink-related deletion discussions.  Logan Talk Contributions 05:23, 14 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep: Per my understanding of past consensus, see Articles for deletion/L'Auberge (restaurant) for my short review of history of Michelin-starred restaurant AfDs.--Milowent • hasspoken  05:25, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep The fact that a restaurant was awarded one or two Michelin stars for several decades creates a very strong presumption of notability. "Run of the mill" applies to local hot dog stands or pizza joints, not world class restaurants.  In my opinion, an AfD nominator, in a case such as this, should be expected to explain in great detail the unique circumstances that led to a restaurant receiving such a prestigious award for so many years yet otherwise failing to to achieve notability.  Such an explanation should include an understanding of the significance of the Michelin stars.  Warning - this will be a very difficult challenge.  As to the reliance on reliable Dutch language sources, please be aware that they are just as acceptable as English language sources. Thanks also to Milowent for the history lesson.  Cullen 328   Let's discuss it  07:35, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Per Michelin ratings. The fact that the sources are in dutch is irrelevant.  Ryan Vesey  Review me!  20:20, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Withdraw. Okay so how do we go about withdrawing the nomination? Tinton5 (talk) 23:36, 14 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.