Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/De facto Republic of Indonesia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Liz Read! Talk! 05:17, 23 February 2022 (UTC)

De facto Republic of Indonesia

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This article is unnecessary content forking. The content on this page is mainly copied from Linggadjati Agreement and almost no information on Republic of Indonesia at that time. Also no other similar case on Wikipedia, i.e: we don't have De facto United States on wikipedia Ckfasdf (talk) 03:43, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Indonesia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 03:54, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
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 * Delete Not a different political entity with the regular Republic of Indonesia, this just represents the territory under physical control. No distinction in sources, either. Juxlos (talk) 04:20, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Bluesatellite (talk) 08:11, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nominator Tomorrow and tomorrow (talk) 09:55, 16 February 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per nomination; while it's an interesting topic you could make this kind of article about any transition between regimes, I don't think it's useful to have it as a separate article like this.--Dan Carkner (talk) 16:53, 16 February 2022 (UTC)


 * Comment The topic at hand seems like a potential one for an article, there is a distinction between these areas and others in Indonesia during that time period. However, this article is mostly unattributed copyvio so I do not advocating keeping, and more importantly such information would make sense being integrated into the existing Republic of Indonesia (1949–1950) article, which covers what the entity later became. CMD (talk) 08:29, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * To be fair, this topics is actually already covered in Indonesian National Revolution, but somehow the author of De facto Republic of Indonesia didn't take anything from there. Nonetheless, separate article for this topics is not really necessary.Ckfasdf (talk) 09:04, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * There is a lot of potential detail and information that won't fit on that page. I don't think it's right to deem this this topic as not being particularly notable, and would not want the deletion of this article to set a precedent limiting the future expansion of articles from this period of history, for example if a main page was created for that section/the 1949-1950 article expanded. CMD (talk) 09:21, 17 February 2022 (UTC)
 * This is not notability issue, and I'm not against content forking but it should refer to WP:SPINOFF. Ckfasdf (talk)


 * Delete per all above. Removal is the more trivial part of the decision. More complex is redirecting versus deletion, as the phrase has been mentioned (but not more than that) several times in fine literature. I decided against a redirect as most geopolitical entities will have the facto or de jure before their name every now and then. Without capitalization, it is not really part of a name. gidonb (talk) 21:06, 19 February 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.