Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Deaf hearing


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. There are several merger proposals, these need further discussion on the relevant talk-pages. Pax:Vobiscum (talk) 08:21, 2 March 2012 (UTC)

Deaf hearing

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Can't find any mainstream support of this term. Neither paper seems to actually use the term "deaf hearing", and a search for the term found nothing matching this. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 06:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Behavioural science-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 02:33, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Merge with Deaf or Hearing. Sources seem to be fishy, but a merge would be nice into either one. Tinton5 (talk) 03:14, 13 February 2012 (UTC) 
 * Delete as original synthesis of sources. The condition may exist, but there is too little research on the topic yet. Bearian (talk) 22:05, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Martijn Hoekstra (talk) 23:01, 19 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge into deaf. Bzweebl (talk) 02:12, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment. If a paper has "deaf hearing" in its title and its abstract, and lists the term under its "key words", I think it is fair to say the paper uses the term. Apart from that, it is used another six times in the Garde & Cowey paper cited in the article. So I don't get why nominator thinks the term is not actually used in the paper. This is not the first use of the term; the Garde & Cowey paper states it was coined by [Alan Cowey, Petra Stoerig (1991). "Reflections in blindsight". In: A. D. Milner, M. D. Rugg, editors. The neuropsychology of consciousness. New York: Academic Press; 1991. pp. 11–37. ISBN 0-12-498045-7.]. The latter paper, however, ascribes the term to [F. Michel (1990). "Hemi-anacusia is usually unknown to the patient" (Poster presentation). Russell Trust symposium, St Andrews, Scotland, September 1990.]. --Lambiam 09:38, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Addition. Google scholar gives 24 articles in which the Garde & Cowey study is cited, almost all of which are peer-reviewed academic publications, and I see no reason to suggest that this falls outside mainstream science. --Lambiam 09:56, 20 February 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep I saw a news item recently about a deaf woman who listened to concerts by feeling the vibrations of a balloon. A quick search soon shows this to be a well-established technique - see Deaf persons in the arts and sciences for example.  We have some coverage of that aspect at Evelyn Glennie.  The rest is a matter of ordinary editing, not deletion. Warden (talk) 11:09, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Well, yes, but that gives a completely other meaning to "deaf hearing" than the one in the article. Your concert-going woman is consciously aware of perceiving the music in some form through sensation coming from the outside world. But the subject in the study the article is based on was not at all aware of externally originating sensation. It is the auditory analogon of Type 1 blindsight, which also bypasses awareness. --Lambiam 23:54, 20 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Clarifying comment - I'm not against the re-creation of this article, when more research is published, and those studies are analyzed in secondary sources - newspapers, textbooks, etc. Right now, however, the topic is not ripe for WikiPedia because it's "original research." Bearian (talk) 18:31, 22 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Could you clarify what makes you think this is original research? Do you see a claim or novel interpretation being advanced in the article that cannot be found in reliable published sources? --Lambiam 02:18, 23 February 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep, but consider Merge into Deafness (or perhaps Blindsight, as an analogous situation). This does seem to be a real phenomenon, supported by reliable sources, though not a widely discussed one; it's borderline whether it passes the notability test. Overall, I think it would best covered as a subsection of another article rather than as an independent one. Robofish (talk) 17:26, 26 February 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.