Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dean (South Korean singer)


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The result was delete. Randykitty (talk) 17:57, 1 September 2015 (UTC)

Dean (South Korean singer)

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Fails WP:NMUSIC. An up-and-coming "future R&B artist, multi-platinum songwriter, and producer" who doesn't currently appear to have any substantial claim to notability. Despite working (apparently quite tangentially) with acts like Jennifer Hudson, Justin Bieber, and others, Dean appears to have no substantial coverage in reliable sources. I'll comment further in a moment. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:42, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * A few weeks ago the issue of notability was raised on the talk page. I searched through some available online sources at that time:
 * - seems to be a press release
 * - the same press release, modified only slightly
 * - his page on the Joombas website, which says he also goes by "Deanfluenza"
 * Searching for "deanfluenza" instead, I get:
 * - about the upcoming release
 * - about the new release but the same press release as above
 * listed as a producer at our article Eternity (VIXX song), which is tagged for unreliable references
 * Another editor provided some more references:
 * - this is just a music video
 * - interview with the CEO of "Joombas" who Dean has worked with and is planning his upcoming release with; the label was recently determined at AfD to be non-notable


 * - the original interview. The editor asserts "Naver is Korean version of yahoo or google. Very reliable source/website" but I don't think we'd consider either of those sites to be reliable. Also, it's the same interview from the last link, with only a couple of passing mentions.
 * - a blogspot blog
 * - a write-up in what might be a reliable source, but it's just a track listing
 * As I said on the talk page, a songwriter who has made a notable contribution to an artist's work should be subject of some kind of independent coverage, and if Dean's upcoming tour to support their recent (or upcoming, not sure) release was at all notable, there would be independent reliable source coverage. But I can't find it. He only seems to have released via iTunes at this point. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 19:56, 17 August 2015 (UTC)


 * Strong delete. As noted above, Dean fails the notability criteria for musicians as well as the general notability guidelines, since he has not gotten significant coverage in reliable, independent sources. —C.Fred (talk) 19:47, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:17, 17 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Korea-related deletion discussions. North America1000 23:18, 17 August 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — ☮ JAaron95  Talk  15:19, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * I'm interested in your rationale for relisting this. I know we're not supposed to count !votes, but there have been only two editors commenting on this (myself included) both in favour of deletion. Do you think that another 7 days will attract a different argument, or do you have one yourself? Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:41, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Hello Thanks for getting to me. My interests are not in getting a different argument rather, to get consensus/opinions from multiple editors before deleting an article. I wouldn't bother relisting a similar keep outcome but deleting is something I would wish to have a good consensus (My policy is to relist AfDs with ≥2 delete !votes). After all running an AfD for +7 days is of no loss I believe... But, you are free to ask any Admin to close this if they think is appropriate. Regards— ☮  JAaron95  Talk  15:53, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Thank you, that is certainly a reasonable policy to have. Cheers. Ivanvector 🍁 (talk) 15:57, 24 August 2015 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete - There doesn't seem to be one single clear source establishing notability here. At the same time, it does seem like maybe searching by his English and Korean nicknames might make a difference. Still, at the end of the day, what remains is puffery that doesn't seem to cross into major notability. He's not won any major awards, been covered by something like Billboard, etc; also, this may be a 'too soon' case given how young the fellow is. I lean toward just scrubbing the article. CoffeeWithMarkets (talk) 08:37, 1 September 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete - Searches using the engines reveal nothing to show the current notability of this person.  Onel 5969  TT me 15:46, 1 September 2015 (UTC)


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