Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Death of Stuart Lubbock


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Overwhelming consensus for 'keep'. Malcolmxl5 (talk) 09:25, 28 March 2021 (UTC)

Death of Stuart Lubbock

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This does not seem a crime of lasting interest -- see WP:CRINE  DGG ( talk ) 08:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * I think you meant WP:CRIME? Martinevans123 (talk) 11:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * KEEP this case gained huge media attention in the UK, primarily because it happened in the home of Michael Barrymore, who at the time was one of the UK's highest-profile celebrities. It was the primary reason why his career was destroyed and is still talked about - stoked up in part by the recent (March 2021) arrest of another man for Lubbock's murder. If you google Michael Barrymore you will see that around 50% of the hits are still related to the Lubbock case. --10mmsocket (talk) 09:24, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Crime-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 09:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep As per 10mmsocket. Just because a crime was committed 20 years ago, doesn't mean it has disappeared from the public's memory, especially when a new suspect has been arrested. Martinevans123 (talk) 10:06, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep most definitely the subject of lasting interest. Mccapra (talk) 11:27, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - I would say it is a firm 'keep'. This received a great deal of coverage at the time of the incident and is still the subject of debate 20 years later. Eagleash (talk) 11:37, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep very notable event, with reliable, verifiable, independent sources  Devoke  water  12:44, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - extensive coverage, even 20 years later. Coverage in the BBC and Guardian so pretty much about as notable as it gets. Also has a lot of Telegraph coverage so, yeah, clear and obvious keep. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 12:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - Not sure what DGG is doing here but this is a case that has had decades of significant coverage in reliable sources. FOARP (talk) 13:21, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: the article was only recently restored, following the discussion at Talk:Michael Barrymore, but I assume that DGG knew that. Martinevans123 (talk) 13:48, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Speedy Keep This has been unsolved for over 20 yrs, destroyed Barrymore's career and has been in and out of the news,, including a documentary about it during this whole time.Davidstewartharvey (talk) 15:36, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Per all the above. This case has lots of continued coverage since day 1 due to the Barrymore connection, with several documentaries/news specials about it over the years.  Lugnuts  Fire Walk with Me 17:26, 21 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Probably piling on here, but I did want to make sure that at least one keep vote formally cited the relevant guideline WP:VICTIM:
 * The victim or person wrongly convicted, consistent with Wikipedia:Biographies of living persons#Subjects notable only for one event, had a large role within a well-documented historic event. The historic significance is indicated by persistent coverage of the event in reliable secondary sources that devote significant attention to the individual's role. (emphasis mine). The language is a bit stilted since it applies to both victims and wrongly convicted (clearly the victim's significant role in their murder is a bit redundant), but it's pretty clear that if the coverage of a murder persists 20 years afterwards, then the subject explicitly meets the guidelines under WP:VICTIM. Hyperion35 (talk) 22:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep - Per WP:VICTIM. Per good sourcing.BabbaQ (talk) 18:38, 24 March 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep - information about this death is important. Proxima Centauri (talk) 14:44, 25 March 2021 (UTC)


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