Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Debian Free Software Guidelines (2nd nomination)


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The result was merge‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__ to The Open Source Definition. Not 100% sure I got this one right but if I didn't, I'm sure someone will tell me or take this to DRV. Liz Read! Talk! 00:25, 12 June 2024 (UTC)

Debian Free Software Guidelines
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Non-notable precursor of The Open Source Definition. I was barely able to scrape up enough independent analysis to create a viable article about the OSD and the related Open Definition. There is much less available on the Debian definition.

The last AfD was in 2007 and notability was not considered.

Furthermore, I cannot support this article's existence per WP:NOPAGE because the Debian definition, slightly modified, was adopted as the OSD and the texts are very similar. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:19, 17 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Law, Technology,  and Computing. Skynxnex (talk) 22:44, 17 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Already visited AFD before so Soft Deletion is not an option. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:50, 24 May 2024 (UTC)
 * A Google Books search seems to produce a couple hundred mentions. Are these all cursory? --Joy (talk) 07:07, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Pretty much all I found was quotes of the definition and mentions—no significant coverage differentiating it from the OSD. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  07:11, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 * OK, let's give people some time then to try to find better coverage. If it can't be found, and if the mass of primary and cursory references isn't deemed worthy of a standalone article, then there's the matter of where to redirect - Debian Social Contract or even a section inside Debian may also be good destinations. --Joy (talk) 10:43, 18 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.   Mel ma nn   08:16, 28 May 2024 (UTC)


 * Delete or redirect: I found some brief mentions in books, but nothing more. Any extensive discussion of the guidelines I could find was authored by people who are intimately involved with the open-source community, bringing their independence into question. My examination wasn't exhaustive, but my search has turned up the same result as the nominator's. HyperAccelerated (talk) 19:38, 28 May 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Relisting to see whether there could be any consensus on Redirection or on a Redirect target article. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:32, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep significant coverage in multiple reliable sources:, , . ~Kvng (talk) 21:04, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * Those sources aren't independent and can't be used to establish notability. Hertzog and Krafft are both Debian developers, and DiBona spent nearly 20 years at Google on OSS. HyperAccelerated (talk) 21:46, 28 May 2024 (UTC)
 * The first one contains no information that is not in my proposed draft for the Open Source Definition article and the last two are written from a transparently non-independent perspective. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  00:52, 29 May 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * I'd merge to The Open Source Definition or buidhe's draft. Aaron Liu  (talk) 11:48, 3 June 2024 (UTC)

Relisting comment: Final relist. There are 3 different target articles being proposed here. To carry out this option as a closure, we need to settle on one. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 22:42, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Merge or redirect per nom. Toadspike   [Talk]  10:30, 7 June 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * @Liz The only candidates I see are the OSD and Buidhe's draft of it. That says, @Buidhe would you kindly link us to your draft? I can't find it. Aaron Liu  (talk) 20:46, 8 June 2024 (UTC)
 * That's because it was incorporated as the main space article on 18 May. (t &#183; c)  buidhe  01:07, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * @Buidhe I'm talking about the draft for the OSD, not the draft of the Open Definition, unless you would see it fit to merge to the latter article. Aaron Liu  (talk) 02:30, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * It's located at The Open Source Definition, see the diff from May 18 (t &#183; c)  buidhe  03:40, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * Ah, thanks. So there's only one sane target article. @HyperAccelerated I assume you also agree to merging to OSD? Aaron Liu  (talk) 22:24, 9 June 2024 (UTC)
 * OSD is fine with me. HyperAccelerated (talk) 15:55, 10 June 2024 (UTC)


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