Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Declan Arthurs (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   merge to Provisional_IRA_East_Tyrone_Brigade. (except Patrick Kelly, per ONIH - this one to be left open for a short while to see if it can be improved) Black Kite 22:33, 28 September 2009 (UTC)

Declan Arthurs
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As part of this AFD I'm also nominating Seamus Donnelly (Irish republican), Eugene Kelly (Irish republican), Gerry O'Callaghan, Tony Gormley and Patrick Joseph Kelly as their articles are all based on the same single event.

These articles were previously nominated for deletion. The result of that discussion was to merge them to Provisional IRA East Tyrone Brigade.

The original concerns still seem valid based on WP:N, WP:NOTMEMORIAL and particularly, WP:ONEEVENT. The subjects don’t seem to have done anything notable besides being killed in the Loughgall ambush and what notable content on them there is should be added there since there appears to be very little on their lives to create anything more than a perma-stub. The Declan Arthurs article highlights this. There are seven refs, which looks promising, but the 1st, 5th, 6th and 7th deal with the Loughall incident. The 2nd appears to be from an Irish Republican commemorative website and fails WP:RS. The 3rd and 4th aren’t even about him, they’re about his brother. There was previously an eighth ref there which I removed as no part of it supported the claim that “in January 1987, Arthurs spent all but seven days in Gough Barracks with no charges being brought” and it deals with the Loughall ambush and not Arthurs’ life. Others have even more problems, the Seamus Donnelly article has nothing other than a brief line or two and two refs, one not a reliable source and the other about Loughgall. During the previous afd on Tony Gormley it was claimed that Gormley was notable for other attacks. However nearly 3 years have passed since then and there is still no hint that the article can be improved to standalone status. As 22 years have passed since the deaths of all involved it’s unlikely that any new information will come to light on their activities. Valenciano (talk) 08:57, 19 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Agree with nominator. The main purpose of the article appears to be as a memorial. Mooretwin (talk) 08:27, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Keeep Patrick Kelly Article can be expanded, as was explained in the first AFD and also when it was overturned. Various books detail Kelly's activites prior to 1987, as has already been explained also. 2 lines of K  303  13:17, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Is that a keep to all or only to Patrick Kelly? Valenciano (talk) 15:21, 21 September 2009 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Tim Song (talk) 15:31, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Just keep for Patrick Kelly, no real opinion on the rest. 2 lines of K  303  13:19, 23 September 2009 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Relisting comment: This AfD was malformed and now fixed. I relisted it because the original AfD was easily overlooked. Please consider this the first week of discussion. Tim Song (talk) 15:35, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Northern Ireland-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 17:51, 21 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Merge all into one article and fundamentally rewrite from a neutral point of view. The bias in this article is so massive it is visible from space. Chris Neville-Smith (talk) 17:55, 21 September 2009 (UTC)


 * Merge and rewrite for NPOV. B.Rossow talk contr 17:19, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Terrorism-related deletion discussions.  --  Fences  &amp;  Windows  21:02, 22 September 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.