Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/DecorActive


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete, since it has been illustrated by the participants that the article does not meet WP:CORP criteria. There are WP:COI issues as well. &mdash; Nearly Headless Nick   {C}  14:44, 11 June 2007 (UTC)

DecorActive

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Being a Young Enterprise company is not notable per WP:CORP unless they have done something significant. Gaz (talk?) 16:45, 4 June 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Also, it is WP:SPAM. --Evb-wiki 18:33, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Keep I may have started this AfD, but I can still go against my original decision. Add that video as a reference, and that would make you notable enough for Wikipedia. Oh, and Fortan is right, there is some COI which requires editing (see here). Gaz (talk?) 21:21, 4 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete the nature of the article and the contents so far added is an indication to me that it is most unlikely to be N. If kept, every word after the first two sentences is puffery, and Im not sure of the second half of sentence two.DGG 03:35, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - Not only is this article completely PR spam, it is filled with WP:AUTO and WP:COI violations. --Evb-wiki 12:44, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * While the article might be salvageable from WP:SPAM (as I noted on the talk page), please familiarize yourself with the Wikipedia guidelines concerning autobiographical articles and conflicts of interest. --Evb-wiki 14:41, 5 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Weak Keep - While there are definitely issues with the article reading like an advertisement, that's something that can be fixed in time. The main question (at least in my view) is one of notability. While the depth of coverage isn't great, there are multiple independent sources. Of course, several of the sources appear to be in the Maltese language. This shouldn't be unexpected given the subject of the article is Maltese, but it does make verification challenging. - Fordan (talk) 12:52, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Comments from the article creator
In order to improve readability and make it easier to follow the conversation, I have moved the comments from the article creator to this section. -FisherQueen (Talk) 13:42, 6 June 2007 (UTC)

Reference to: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:DecorActive

Dear Fordan,

Thanks for your time and understanding. I see you are quite interested regarding the coverage we as a company have achieved.

Times of Malta is far from the only thing that we achieved as coverage.. We recently had an article on mument.. pg 3!! (times is the most popular newspapers and that mument sold over 400 000....of which 100 000 went to international countries) – the photos I can send you by email if you want.. + We had live television promo.. http://www.youtube.com/decoractiveye we have two videos on you tube to prove this. (Its in Maltese obviously) so we are quite renowned within Malta.

One is on Xarabank.The most popular Show in Malta (xarabank hit over 185 000 people and one must see that it is the highest amount (comparing with the 400 000 population of malta its a lot! and that shows how popular the program is) Pjazza fir-raħal – another popular show!

SO Coverage from secondary sources we satisfied it.. BUT you didn’t gave us a chance to write it in the actual article on wiki.. cause as soon we start introducing ourselves on wiki you started talking on deletion without giving us a chance to write regarding our popularity. You must understand we are students as well whom right now are going through exams.. so you have a little patience with us.. --Decoractive.ye 20:40, 4 June 2007 (UTC)

The nature of the article is one which is neutral and not business minded. It is notable enough for a feature on wiki. Due to its appearence of national level. In fact in the references one can see the media with DecorActive.

If there are other sentences that you would like to remove or rephrase, please communicate them here..

Now you can remove the tag of deletion please --Decoractive.ye 10:56, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

It seems that you are claiming that our article is regarded as PR Spam right?

We do have references to the Times of Malta (local Maltese Newspapers) and to our company Youtube however, these were placed by a Wiki person (User:Fordan) yesterday after he decided that our article was one that should be placed on Wiki however he claimed that it needed references and he added them himself. Are these the problem?

May you please advise us on what we may edit,remove or change to our article and other possible tips to solve this problem as we are unaware of such rules since we are quite new to wikipedia and we don't want our article deleted.--Decoractive.ye 14:03, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

So Mr. Evb. Wiki, since you are accusing this article to be spam. We have rectified the article and it is written according to the guidelines of Wikipedia and it is written in the Nautral Point of Views. Now there is NO spam whatsoever. Your point of autobiography is not valid because the article is entirely written in the third person past tense.

Please pin-point sentences which are not written according to the Wikipedia rules and just for the record DON'T give me links anymore because you're not being clear. If the references are the spam, please note once again that those were put up by (user:fordan)to back up our notability which we satisfy with the Wikipedia Rules.

If you have other concerns please point them out otherwise I kindly ask you to remove the deletion tag.

Thanks in advance. --Decoractive.ye 18:15, 5 June 2007 (UTC)

Keep - You still didn't give us some examples regarding advertisment, its irrelevant of continuing accusing if you can't pin point the advertisments so we can remove them.

Notability, i added another article on times (in references section) to make sure that you believe that we had sufficient coverage. Its not my fault if its in Maltese. Its the language we speak here in Malta. So if you can't understand it, instead of doubting.. have a little Good Faith and besides can't you tell its us from the photos and the programs???

Another thing it is NOT an advertisment.

1. the company liquidized in 17th May, so i don't know what we're advertising.

2. With our popularity amongst the maltese, we satisfy all terms for an article, so i don't see the point.

We need you to help us, we can't improve it if you can't be concrete on what you're saying.

If you have no other comments, I kindly ask you to remove the tag.. its quite unpleasent to have it.

--Decoractive.ye 13:31, 6 June 2007 (UTC)


 * Users Fordan and Evb-wiki please answer our posts and pin point any mistakes we may have in our article. If you keep on saying : Youn seem to have written in a sense of advertising and not pin pointing we will have no clue what you will be referring to as for us its good and Wiki worthy. Also please don't take long to answer. This should be an on-going discussion and should you fail to answer for long periods we do have the right to stop this discussion as the discussion is indirectly closed. --Decoractive.ye 09:46, 7 June 2007 (UTC)
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