Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Defense Soap


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep.   A rbitrarily 0   ( talk ) 02:57, 22 November 2011 (UTC)

Defense Soap

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Promotion of a product using Wikipedia. Crio de la Paz (talk) 16:04, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Article is notable for several reasons:
 * This soap has featured in articles from various sources not affiliated with it (NY Times, Sports Pro Media)
 * This soap is commonly used by martial arts practitioners and reviews of it are featured on several blogs (listed in the article)
 * This soap has achieved official recognition by a large martial arts organization (Team USA Judo).
 * The article is not worded like an advertisement, and I have no affiliation with the Defense soap company. The article is still a stub however, and I'd appreciate any editor's help in expanding it further.  Regards,  --Stvfetterly (talk) 16:20, 14 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions. Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:42, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep, with no enthusiasm. This article is about a consumer product made and sold under its own brand.  The NY Times article is significant coverage, all about the soap and the business that makes it.  Not sure that such coverage really makes anything an encyclopedia subject, but it would appear to meet WP:GNG. - Smerdis of Tlön - killing the human spirit since 2003! 17:54, 14 November 2011 (UTC)

I do not know if the product itself is notable enough. It does claim to be the official cleansing product of USA Judo. Is it encyclopedic? There are _tons_ of products in the market: I do not know which ones might be worth a space in the Encyclopedia.--Crio de la Paz (talk) 09:19, 15 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep Seems notable enough, considering the available sources. It appears to be used fairly extensively in the MMA world. Silver  seren C 05:05, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep; appears to pass the GNG, but not by a large margin. On retail products it's often hard to get neutral coverage because the main sources tend to talk in positive terms - does this soap really keep a dozen diseases at bay? we'll never get a WP:MEDRS for such claims... bobrayner (talk) 19:16, 21 November 2011 (UTC)
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