Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Degenatron (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. Stifle (talk) 12:54, 19 October 2008 (UTC)

Degenatron
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Non-notable fictional game console from a video game. Attempt at redirect was reverted. The only third-party reference provided is a website that takes content from Wikipedia. I tried explaining why this was not a suitable reference to the article creator, but he readded.  Pagra shtak  16:48, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of video game related deletions.  Pagra  shtak  16:58, 14 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Did you read the reason why I readded it? The reference article was created first. It did not get any of it's content on Degenatron from my article. Check the dates. Daniel Christensen (talk) 17:01, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * I did, and as I replied to you there, the Wikipedia article on Degenatron was first created in 2004. That site takes content from Wikipedia, and is not a reliable source. It states very clearly at the bottom, "The Wikipedia article included on this page..."  Pagra shtak  18:03, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, as per article's talk page: fails WP:VERIFIABILITY, WP:ORIGINAL RESEARCH and WP:NOTABILITY. -- Amalthea Talk 17:28, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Subtrivial--a product mentioned within fake ads in a videogame and utterly inconsequential to the game's plot. Andrew Lenahan -  St ar bli nd  17:41, 14 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete fails the everything test. JuJube (talk) 01:25, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete--trivial, non-notable. Drmies (talk) 03:10, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep, it's probably one of the most well-known fictional consoles. And Rockstar even has a website for it. Grand Theft Auto: Vice City is an obvious source for the article, and that game sold over 17.5 million copies. A redirect to Grand Theft Auto: Vice City is also a possibility. --Pixelface (talk) 05:04, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Any reliable, independent websites devoted to it? Any sources to show that it's "one of the most well-known fictional consoles"? Marasmusine (talk) 10:56, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Merge/Redirect somewhere; a fictional product in a work of fiction needs a lot more secondary coverage to have its own article (even Mr. Sparkle doesn't), but the term is searchable, and likely a brief section in the GTA game on fictional products can be useful to have. --M ASEM  13:45, 15 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Grand Theft Auto: Vice City per lack of verifiable secondary sources establishing notability (fiction). In addition, contains exclusively original research. Plausible search term. If a revert war ensues, use dispute resolution. MuZemike  ( talk ) 16:54, 15 October 2008 (UTC)


 * All right fags, I merged it into Grand Theft Auto: Vice City. Daniel Christensen (talk) 05:18, 17 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Please be more civil! Themfromspace (talk) 17:43, 17 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.