Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delaware-William & Mary rivalry


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The result was   delete.  Sandstein  06:16, 22 July 2013 (UTC)

Delaware-William & Mary rivalry

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Does not pass GNG, nor is this an actual rivalry. In my WP:BEFORE search I found 0 hits for articles discussing any kind of actual rivalry between these two schools, let alone their football programs. I'm an alumnus of William & Mary and can speak firsthand that nobody at my school considers Delaware a football rival (Richmond, Old Dominion, and even UVA, yes). Jrcla2 (talk) 12:29, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of American football-related deletion discussions. Jrcla2 (talk) 14:45, 9 July 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Non-notable, unreferenced rivalry.  No indication that this is a rivalry, and not just two teams who've played each other a lot.  Howicus (talk) 15:17, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Neutral I see no assertion in the list/article why this particular rivalry should be notable. I'm also seeing no sources cited.  I suppose this would be nice for a sports almanac, but I think that for these two particular programss, a "rivalry" article is a little too much granular detail than is warranted.  Some rivalries are indeed notable.  It does not appear that this one is.--Paul McDonald (talk) 15:26, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Changed position to neutral. It looks like it might can be saved.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:46, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete per not meeting GNG. That said, I did find one 1994 (paywalled) news hit . Google gives the relevant text as: "'It's developed into a great rivalry,' Delaware coach Tubby Raymond said. William and Mary's toughest task will be attempting to stop fullback Daryl Brown ..." TRIBE PUTS HOME WINNING STREAK ON THE LINE \ SHOWDOWN WITH 12TH-RANKED DELAWARE COULD DECIDE YANKEE CONFERENCE RACE. 24.151.116.25 (talk) 17:31, 9 July 2013 (UTC) Keep/Merge per sources cited below by  Go   Phightins  !  24.151.116.25 (talk) 19:58, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * That's enough to stick it in the school's football team articles in my book, maybe not the whole thing--but mention. If anyone finds a few more like this let us know--college football has been around a long time, maybe there's a history we don't know about.  But we'll need to see it first.--Paul McDonald (talk) 18:18, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * This article points to two others: and  which are over a decade apart that refer to it as a rivalry. As such I would be inclined to support a weak keep or at the least merge into respective football program articles.  Go   Phightins  !  19:16, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * If at least a few weak sources exist to claim it's a rivalry, I'd support merging also, but this article should not be stand-alone. Jrcla2 (talk) 19:34, 9 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment - Delaware–James Madison football rivalry is another new article of a similar nature. GoingBatty (talk) 16:57, 10 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete Absurd. I went to William & Mary, and my brother went to Delaware; there's no rivalry between the schools, and even if there were, we're not going to meet WP:NRIVALRY. This matchup is only a "rivalry" in the sense that any two teams from the same conference are "rivals." A few passing references in a local paper isn't strong enough for WP:GNG. At most, a sentence at William & Mary Tribe football to the effect of "Delaware is occasionally considered a William & Mary rival," supported by those sources. --BDD (talk) 21:39, 16 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete any local newspaper can call any two teams in any sport, who played each other a "rivalry" but doesn't mean it is one according to the more extensive coverage required by WP:GNG, which I don't see any other than that source linked above. Secret account 20:11, 18 July 2013 (UTC)
 * Delete - Passing mentions in a local paper doesn't assert notability for a rivalry, and just because two teams are in the same conference doesn't quite merit a rivalry, such as USC and Washington for example: just because the two play in the Pac-12 doesn't make them rivals. The most that can be done is a mention on each team's respective page about the other.  Zappa  O  Mati   17:52, 21 July 2013 (UTC)
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