Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dele Okenla


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The result was   delete. -- Cirt (talk) 03:49, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

Dele Okenla

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Failed election candidate; a member of a new-ish Nigerian political party (not the leader or even a leader, as far as I can work out); second-tier officer of a university students' union; some sort of minor poet. Sorry, this seems just not to meet WP:GNG. PROD was deleted. Sitush (talk) 18:34, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  — -- Cirt (talk) 20:10, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Person who recommended this for deletion must have acted out of malice and questionable motives. A Vice-President of any institution can definitely not be called a second-tier officer. Failing to win an election or winning an election is not the yardstick for measuring notability. Mr Okenla is a leader of a political party and should be seen as such. Political parties are not sole businesses. Mr Okenla is a notable poet whose works are well-known and a popular Nigerian politician. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 86.148.20.130 (talk) 18:43, 4 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Please assume good faith. Let's focus on whether this article is worthy of being kept on Wikipedia rather than on speculating about the nominator's motives. There is no reason to assume that malice or questionable motives were involved here. --Metropolitan90 (talk) 00:00, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment. Unsuccessful candidates in elections is one indicator for failing notability, per the guidelines. The students' union election results appear to show vice-presidents (of which there are four) as a second tier. I requested a cite for the poetry in an edit summary but the result was merely a self-published blog. I have since requested an ISBN using the same method, which I accept is not the ideal way to address the point. I still contend that "a leader" (or "a frontline leader", as the article has it) is vague and I have been unable to narrow things down to him being, for example, "the leader". GSearch reveals not a lot other than blogs/SPS/ephemeral etc, or at least not until the point where I gave up. Perhaps I should have persisted. I also note that the political party is, by self-confession, new-ish. It could be transient, who knows? I would be quite happy for the article's subject to reappear here in the event that any of these issues, but in particular the politics ones, become something tangible. As things stand, it appears to fail several notability tests. Finally, I'm not too happy with the IP user's response above. I had never heard of this person before and, frankly, after doing some digging I am not a lot wiser now. - Sitush (talk) 00:02, 5 June 2011 (UTC)
 * comment. The category that Dele Okenla was listed appears to be Nigerian politicians and not world leaders. The fact that Sitush has never heard of him is immaterial here. If he is a notable Nigerian politician then he deserves a listing. Hilary Clinton also failed to win an election, that does not mean that she should be delisted. I think the entry/article should stay. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 93.97.51.253 (talk)
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 * Delete - It is unclear if EMNews is a reliable source. If we assume that it is, then it is still only one article written about him.  And I'm not convinced that it is a reliable source.  The subject does not meet general notability, nor does the subject meet the criteria for politicians. -- Whpq (talk) 16:27, 10 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:48, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, King of &hearts;   &diams;   &clubs;  &spades; 05:38, 18 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete. There is no online evidence that Okenla has met the notability criteria of WP:POLITICIAN.  He is a failed candidate and there is nothing of significance online to suggest he is a "major local political figures who have received significant press coverage".  Somewhat problematic, as Nigerian news is not as widely published online as, say, the US, but without evidence of notability we can't justify his inclusion. Wikipeterproject (talk) 08:33, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.