Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delegitimisation


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was withdrawn.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 08:39, 3 June 2013 (UTC)

Delegitimisation

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WP:NOTDICT — Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 05:48, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politics-related deletion discussions.  czar   &middot;   &middot;  06:47, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete. Bueller 007 (talk) 08:11, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - That an article is poorly written is not a reason for deletion. At the very least, this article should be merged into Legitimation. Neelix (talk) 13:18, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep per WP:SK. As noted above, this seems to be part of a bundle of nominations related to a geographical dispute and seem to have frivolous, irrelevant character contrary to WP:POINT, WP:HARASS and WP:DISRUPT. Warden (talk) 15:10, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * You should really not copy-paste your arguments from other pages when they have no context here. I will admit I found this article and the others I nominated for deletion by going through a single author's contributions, but only after I discovered that he had created several other poorly formatted articles that violated core Wikipedia policies.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 15:17, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment: This AfD is part of a tag team event -- see here.


 * WP:AfD/Flogging a dead horse (2nd nomination)
 * WP:AfD/Square peg in a round hole
 * WP:AfD/Takes two to tango (idiom)
 * WP:AfD/Salad days (3rd nomination)
 * WP:AfD/Barking up the wrong tree
 * WP:AfD/Throw out the baby with the bathwater


 * WP:AfDTalking past each other
 * WP:AfD/Make a mountain out of a molehill (3rd nomination)
 * WP:AfD/Gosei (Japanese diaspora)
 * WP:AfD/Teach fish how to swim
 * WP:AfD/Learning the hard way


 * It is noteworthy that Articles_for_deletion/Log/2013_May_31 includes so many articles in which the same writer invested time and research? --Tenmei (talk) 15:22, 31 May 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment In this case I think Ryulong has a point, but I don't see grounds for deletion, but rather incentive for improvement. As with the others in this series, it is overshadowed by an attempt to make a point through AfD.   Acroterion   (talk)   15:28, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * There was no WP:POINT to be made. After realizing that one of the many phrases that Tenmei/Ansei uses as if it were a policy or guideline page was authored by himself, I put it up at AFD. I then went to see if he did the same with other phrases that he's done and also a few of these terms that I found dubious to be proper articles as well.— Ryulong ( 琉竜 ) 15:35, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Following the above discussion I believe we should keep it. &mdash; Σosthenes 12  Talk  17:02, 31 May 2013 (UTC)Sosthenes12
 * Keep The concept has roots in Social Psychology and goes well beyond a dictionary definition. See, e.g. . 24.151.116.25 (talk) 17:27, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - IP 24.151.116.25 (may I call you "24" for short?) has it exactly right. This is a legitimate, big-boy social psychology and political science concept, whether one spells it with an S or a Z... The current piece is horrible, but this is an encyclopedic topic that will develop over time. For an example of a book not only dealing with the concept of delegitimization at length, but using the word in the title, see Colin Schindler, Israel and the European Left: Between Solidarity and Delegitimization. (Continuum, 2011). Carrite (talk) 17:54, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Mild keep Not a great article, but it is an important subject of political discourse and meets WP:Notable standards. Already it is more than a mere dictionary definition, and I expect it will develop over time.  19:21, 31 May 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Goes beyond dictionary definition and the article from the International Journal of Conflict and Violence is lends seriousness to this word as a major term. Though I'm sure some combination of social psychology work is fair for citing the term.  We got works from Harvard and Tel-Aviv professors in the first Google cites that go into detail, the article may have problems, but the concept is accepted and notable. NOTDICT is not intended for this. ChrisGualtieri (talk) 04:51, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 *  Keep  Noted expression and cemented in culture. It is obviously more than a dictionary definition as others have pointed out. It looks to me like a case of WP:OVERZEALOUS. --Doug Coldwell (talk) 13:35, 2 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep and improve. The articles found by ChrisGualtieri show this is a notable concept discussed theoretically from a psychological perspective besides the plethora of usage. Psychotropic sentence (talk) 04:04, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * GNG comment. One of those articles is a chapter from a book called The psychology of legitimacy. A merge with legitimacy (political) could be considered. Given that full papers exist on the topic of delegitimization alone, it probably should have a separate article according to WP:GNG. Delegitimization has a separate entry in The Encyclopedia of Peace Psychology for example. Psychotropic sentence (talk) 04:15, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * NPOV comment. And if you're worried that this might be a partisan concept promoted only by some Israeli researchers, rest assured that it has case studies in other countries and conflicts, for example this paper dealing with Italy during Fascism and today. Psychotropic sentence (talk) 04:30, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - there appears to be enough information out there about the concept to write more than a dictionary definition of the word itself. Therefore, WP:NOTDICT is not adequate grounds for deletion. VQuakr (talk) 04:37, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep - Might be a candidate for removal as DICDEF, but the article goes well beyond what a dictionary would do. A better case than any other the nom had listed, but still not enough for a deletion Beyond My Ken (talk) 07:13, 3 June 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.