Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Delvina Dahlheimer


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The result was Keep article requires fixes and has been tagged, but notability of super centenarians seems intrinsic. Pedro : Chat  15:33, 14 December 2007 (UTC)

Delvina Dahlheimer

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Under-referenced stub, more suitable to a list entry than an article. No substantial coverage, so fails WP:BIO. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 17:34, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - per nom. Greswik (talk) 18:05, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep oldest in Minnesota, and relative of another Minnesota super-c.
 * Keep Living to be 113 years old is remarkable enough alone, but to have a sister-in-law who did the same in the same area is very rare. Delvinas husband, Philip Dahlheimer (1889-1974), was the brother of Catherine Hagel. It alomst never happens that two people reach the age of 110 in the same family. Keep the article! &#39;&#39;&#91;&#91;User:Kitia&#124;Kitia&#93;&#93;&#39;&#39; (talk) 20:24, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Per my comment below, where is the evidence that they are in the same family? There is no reference for any of the "facts" in this article other than her dates of birth+death. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 14:02, 14 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete fails WP:NOTE, will never be more than a stub. RMHED (talk) 23:10, 8 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Weak keep or redirect. Under most circumstances, I'd agree this article should be deleted, however I wonder if WP:IDONTKNOWIT can come into effect here, as WP:LOCALFAME clearly does not. Usually, a supercentarian is deleted as a sole holder of non-notability, however, in this case there are actually 2 holders of notability, in Catherine Hagel and her sister Delvina Dahlheimer. Her deceased sister was the oldest in Minnesota. Catherine now the 8th in the world, 5th in the United States, and 1st in Minnesota after beating her sisters' record. I would actually be okay with a double-Redirect to a secondary article such as The Dahlheimer Sisters where their notability as supercentarians is put together and perhaps expanded from there. -- Enhanced Download Bird (Upload) - 20:06, 9 December 2007 (UTC)
 * Reply I have seen no reference in a reliable source for the claim that the two are sisters-in-law. The only non-trivial reference for either of them is this one on Catherine Hagel, which doesn't mention Delvina. It does say that her Hagel's father's name was Dahlheimer, but that coincidence of name is not evidence of a family connection, so I have tagged that fact as original research. --BrownHairedGirl (talk) • (contribs) 12:12, 14 December 2007 (UTC)


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