Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Democratic Candidates for Presidency of United States, 2008

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was DELETE. jni 13:49, 15 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Democratic Candidates for Presidency of United States, 2008
This page duplicates the work being done on U.S. presidential election, 2008. Though something like this should eventually be created it is too early at this point IMHO and, if not, the article should be named U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2008 in accordance with convention - Jord 01:36, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC) This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a fortune teller. Megan1967 02:12, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Speculation. Gamaliel 02:16, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. There aren't any Democratic party candidates for the 2008 Presidential election, yet. This will be speculation for at least a couple more years.  When it ceases to be speculation, it should be covered under U.S. presidential election, 2008. --BM 03:00, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment. By the way, while U.S. presidential election, 2008  will obviously be in the Wikipedia at some point, right now it looks to me to be completely unencyclopedic chat, idle speculation, and gossip-mongering about who are "potential" candidates, and various other unsourced pontificating.   Under the United States constitution, anybody who is an American by birth who will be 35 or over in January, 2009, is a potential candidate.    There are number of political blogs and web sites where people can and do speculate about the coming election. Wikipedia is not a chat room. --BM 03:06, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. U.S. presidential election, 2008 covers the subject sufficiently for now. Carrp | Talk 03:11, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. Unencyclopedic, unverifiable until the actual election day. JoaoRicardo 04:24, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, move and rework. Cleanup, maybe. Notable speculation is as good as a notable fact. It's a question of fame and importance. This is an important and often discussed topic in the U.S., and therefore it's a totally valid subject. Someday it might be merged into a 2008 Dem. primaries article as a section about early speculation. Everyking 08:19, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete prediction of far-off future events is not an encyclopedia's purpose. Andrew Lenahan - St ar bli nd 14:42, Feb 9, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. While I agree with Everyking's arguments, the article is, as Jord notes, completely duplicative of material covered on U.S. presidential election, 2008, which I believe with some confidence (as a regular contributor there) doesn't need any breakout at this time. Samaritan 15:17, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Comment: Indeed and when it needs its own article it should be called U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2008.  Why?  See U.S. Democratic Party presidential nomination, 2004 - this is the naming convention for such a thing - Jord 16:21, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete per Starblind's argument. Rossami (talk) 19:37, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Duplicative Trödel| talk 21:17, 9 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Redirect to U.S. presidential election, 2008. --Idont Havaname 04:53, 10 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete, clearly an improper duplicate. Neutralitytalk 02:32, Feb 11, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete as speculative and redundant, plus most of what everyone else said above me. Tuf-Kat 03:16, Feb 14, 2005 (UTC)