Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Demon's Cycle


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. If an editor believes there are sources out there that haven't been found yet I will userfy the page to them so they can continue to work on it. J04n(talk page) 16:14, 25 March 2013 (UTC)

Demon's Cycle

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Fails WP:COMPANY for lack of sustained, in depth coverage of the company itself in independent sources. There are large numbers of news hits, but they're all PRWeb Newswire press releases. The best source is one brief blog post by Bryan Harley at MotorcycleUSA. There would need to be more than one of these, and they'd need to say much more about Demon's Cycle to meet the notability criteria. Dennis Bratland (talk) 02:49, 17 March 2013 (UTC)

Dennis, yes you are right in the sense that the article is incomplete, but it doesn't mean that Demon's Cycle isn't important. More research is needed to provide separate sources. Even if the sources are press releases this shows the activity and worthiness of the company but we need to find more ways to substantiate that. As a reference the custom motorcycle company J&P Cycles is similar to Demon's Cycle and has a long time entry in Wikipedia.

Also as final remark, since Wikipedia is community based and I edit this article and others in my spare time, please don't make any rushed decisions. (User talk: Garysims)
 * As long as sources can be found to exist, the article won't be deleted just because it's short. The problem is that if there are no good independent sources, then no amount of time and effort can fix it. I searched Google books and news, HighBeam, General OneFile/Gale (publisher), and Questia and came up with nothing that meets Notability (organizations and companies). The J&P Cycles article might well need to be deleted -- it has many footnotes but a lot of them are just blogs and press releases, or brief mentions of one of their bike rather than in depth coverage of the company. The book Keeping the World on 2 Wheels. How J & P Cycles Changed the American Motorcycle Industry by Ed Youngblood is published by J&P Cycles; it's not independent. But please read Other stuff exists. This discussion is about Demon's Cycle. See WP:CLOSEAFD for how these decisions are reached; it is unlikely to be rushed or deleted without clear consensus. --Dennis Bratland (talk) 16:05, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Nothing on ProQuest either, for both Demon's Cycle and Thomas Steinbacher. Brianhe (talk) 16:16, 17 March 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom. Sources not found at Highbeam Research or other online searches.  Press releases don't cut it as spelled out at WP:SPS. Policy is not to wait for coverage to materialize at reliable sources, but to delete the article now and recreate it if and when this happens. — Brianhe (talk) 15:15, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Florida-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Business-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:42, 17 March 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.