Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denil Maldonado


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The result was keep. Black Kite (talk) 23:33, 25 July 2019 (UTC)

Denil Maldonado

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Article fails WP:GNG and WP:NFOOTBALL. Subject has not played in a fully professional league nor has he represented his nation at senior or Olympic level. Simione001 (talk) 23:55, 18 July 2019 (UTC)


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 * Keep passes WP:GNG by a pretty clear margin.       Maldonado is also a "fringe" international player, having appeared on the bench for the last five Honduras matches but never being substituted in for the Gold Cup or recent friendlies against Paraguay, and could make his inaugural international appearance soon. SportingFlyer  T · C  07:51, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep per above passes WP:GNG.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 13:58, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - How can one suggest that someone with 50 starts for one of the biggest teams in Honduras wouldn't easily meet WP:GNG? This is a WP:BEFORE fail - similar to that at Articles for deletion/Cristian Cálix. Players on top Honduran teams generally meet GNG. Is it time for a topic-ban? Nfitz (talk) 16:36, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Draftify – Doesn't meet NFOOTY now, and the argument that "he may meet NFOOTY soon" should be discounted per WP:NOTCRYSTALBALL. As for WP:GNG, there is El Heraldo, which is an example of WP:SIGCOV. Interviews like (and ) aren't independent–they're the same as a press release–all the information is coming from the subject, not from any independent journalism. The rest of SF's sources above are brief mentions, devoid of content about the subject. I'm not seeing a second example of SIGCOV, though some come close  . Unlike Christian Calix, who only had coverage in La Prensa/Diez, Maldonado at least has coverage in multiple Honduran newspapers, including El Heraldo and Tiempo. If/when he becomes a national player and/or a second example of SIGCOV is found or written, the article can be moved to mainspace. – Levivich  18:13, 20 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Easily meets GNG with sigcov with the listed articles. I don't know how you got the impression that a feature interviews in major newspapers don't indicate notability - they may not be the best source for accuracy on all issues, but that they even exist at all demonstrates GNG has been met, with 5 very good sources - I wouldn't call two of them borderline! A quick google search shows there's more too - even the amount of (not necessarily GNG) other coverage in the last couple of days is impressive - and this article isn't new. This article should never have been nominated. I don't understand how you imply it's a better case than a case that the community overwhelmingly had consensus was a keep, and you vote against keeping! That implies that you aren't imposing community standards here, but trying to change the standards. Nfitz (talk) 19:37, 20 July 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep. Seems Honduras isn't on FPL so this doesn't pass NFOOTY (this is another NFOOTY weakness - "strong" players in the top-flight leagues that are semi-pro, particularly if they are at the edges of the national squad, are often notable - they definitely have more coverage than a player who made a few appearances in a 3rd (fully-pro) league and then disappeared). Per the multitude of hits on google-news - skimming through them - I'm convinced that WP:GNG is likely to be met. Icewhiz (talk) 06:51, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - A quick search shows that the player would past WP:GNG with references stating him not even a week ago. HawkAussie (talk) 23:52, 21 July 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep - agree that saying he might meet NFOOTBALL soon is WP:CRYSTAL - but that doesn't matter when he clearly meets GNG. GiantSnowman 08:27, 25 July 2019 (UTC)


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