Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Denis Dufour


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. — Kurykh  00:13, 4 August 2007 (UTC)

Denis Dufour

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I had deleted this article two weeks ago, because I did not perceive that this individual was notable, and in addition to that, the subject of the article is, and he is the primary author (he is also the primary author at fr:Denis Dufour and it:Denis Dufour, but they have their own policies). This man is solely notable and has only released albums in his native country of France. The only reason my initial deletion was overruled because of abuse of OTRS in his sending a ticket to get his autobiography undeleted at the English Wikipedia, and to release his rights on any material he has created at the other projects. I personally don't see this man passing WP:MUSIC, and WP:AUTOBIO should be taken into account here, as it is very unlikely that this article can be written with a neutral point of view if its only author is the subject.— Ryūlóng ( 竜龍 ) 09:55, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Comment - The article is uncited, there are no WP:RS reliable independent sources evidencing the necessary degree of notability. I am unsure whether or not "several instrumental ensembles" is notable (many people create unnotable ensembles, or create notable ensembles but are themselves non-notable), and the same might go for being "the principle instigator of the festival Futura and artistic director of Motus". These are the only two claims asserted in the article, and in each case notability of Dufour himself is as yet, completely unevidenced.


 * There is some tendency these days in the community that people who become marginally notable mostly due to involvement in some other notable matter (?such as musical ensembles) are better dealt with by a redirect to that "Bigger picture" article. So there are some claims that might show notability, marginal notability, or no notability at all, and I can't judge which. And of course per nom, there are the autobio concerns and context which is significant. But unless he is notable in his own right and meets WP:RS, WP:N and WP:AUTOBIO, and other policies on notability and inclusion, then there probably should be no article on him.


 * FT2 (Talk 10:21, 29 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete - numerous problems including being uncited. People who aren't in regular contact with such a subject would be startled by the way it is written.  Onnaghar  (Talk) 12:36, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. No record of any publication on the normal channels (Yahoo Music or Gracenote are what I checked) - so he may be an independent.  Sounds like he'd be a good musician, at any rate. -- Dennis The Tiger   (Rawr and stuff) 17:44, 29 July 2007 (UTC)
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