Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Department of Linguistics and English Language, Lancaster University


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Consensus is that this is not notable. Whether to create a redirect is an editorial decision; there's no consensus about that here.  Sandstein  08:00, 9 April 2019 (UTC)

Department of Linguistics and English Language, Lancaster University

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We have no formal standard for academic departments, unlike for individual academics. The practice in the relatively few AfDs over the years has been essentially "world-famous", which for all but the largest disciplines, would be one of the top 2 or 3 in the world. Lancaster is not among these. The various rankings linked in the article are in the range of 10th to 19th. The article doesn't even claim that--it just says "one of the top in Europe". The GNG can be a useful guideline even in the eyes of those like myself, who wish we had something better. There is not a single substantial reference here, just the placement on various lists, and its own praise of itself. As auxiliary factors, a total of 6 notable alumni is not very impressive, nor s the sponsorship of a single conference, nor the absence of sponsorship of any major publication series or journal.  DGG ( talk ) 05:24, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
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There is a similar article on the Department of English, University of Vienna or the Department of Chemistry, Imperial College London. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindseyMcleish (talk • contribs) 07:29, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Please consider this matter before deleting this entry. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindseyMcleish (talk • contribs) 09:08, 25 March 2019 (UTC)

Delete - Per nom's comments about GNG, I agree it's the best guideline to consider here. And following up on that, I would consider a department in Oxford, Yale, Stanford to pass GNG. Not this one. Skirts89 09:27, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Redirect - to the university's article. Per WP:ATD and well, redirects are cheap. Just a note: if I had found this while on NPP, I would have just boldly redirected. Nothing resembles notability here, for certain. John from Idegon (talk) 09:34, 25 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I do not see the point of redirecting. There would be equal merit in creating a redirect for every department in every university. They are all useless, because anyone would know to look at the article for the University.  DGG ( talk ) 01:56, 26 March 2019 (UTC)

The department is known as the home of Critical discourse analysis thanks to the work of Norman Fairclough and Ruth Wodak. — Preceding unsigned comment added by LindseyMcleish (talk • contribs) 14:05, 25 March 2019 (UTC) This entry is important because the Department of Linguistics and English Language at Lancaster University is considered as the home of the Critical discourse analysis. In the literature the department is often credited as the birthplace of Critical discourse theories. Norman Fairclough and Ruth Wodak made the department famous for applied linguistics especially Critical discourse analysis. Although the department is not ranked among the top 5 universities in linguistics in general, the department is the first in applied linguistics, a sub field of linguistics. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Appliedlinguist (talk • contribs) 04:21, 26 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Are there sources indicating this? How does this make it notable? Is there a source for being first in applied linguistics, which also happens to be your username? Skirts89 11:47, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * I would also like to mention virtually all of your edits have been to this page. Do you have a relationship with Lancaster University? Skirts89 11:49, 27 March 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - Yes, I agree that the entry might be one-sided. However, the department seem to be world-known since it was mentioned by many different sources as I see.
 * It could be improved by adding some details about the scientific research the department contributed to.

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Randykitty (talk) 15:51, 1 April 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment - I saw several Wikipedia entries on different faculties such as University of Sydney Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, National University of Singapore and etc. I would recommend to create a new page entitled Faculty of Arts and Social Sciences, Lancaster University and include the content of this page into the new entry. In this way the content of the page can be preserved and would not break the rules of the Wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by EUROLinguistics (talk • contribs) 04:10, 3 April 2019 (UTC)
 * I don't see that solving things unless the faculty itself is notable Aloneinthewild (talk) 21:35, 7 April 2019 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Lancaster University, where the department is already listed. Critical discourse analysis already has an article, as do a couple of actually notable former faculty members, so that doesn't need to be duplicated here. A bunch of media mentions aren't significant coverage of the department, and minor awards and rankings PR don't count toward notability. I'm sympathetic to DGG's point about not redirecting, but in this case I think redirecting shows that consensus is for department content to be placed in the university article. It's not a permission slip for every department everywhere to have a redirect. It's just a decision about this article. Bakazaka (talk) 01:34, 9 April 2019 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.