Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Department of Sociology, University of Karachi


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. I'm sorry Faizanalivarya but the consensus here is that this department is not notable at this time. However, there wasn't sufficient discussion on the others to ring them up too so the decision on those is no consensus with leave to speedy renominate. Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:36, 28 November 2011 (UTC)

Department of Sociology, University of Karachi

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Not notable. &mdash;Manicjedi (talk) (contribs) (templates) 16:59, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete It is not our practice to consider university departments notable unless they are actually world-famous, which is not the case here.  I'm not sure what the exact qualifications would be, but I would consider being recognized as one of the top three or four in that subject world-wide would be necessary. I would be willing to expand it a little, but not by much. It's a matter of practicality--there would be about a half million articles, and, while Wikipedia is not paper and we could physically cope with it, it would not provide very much information beyond what the departments provide themselves and the articles would almost always be a paraphrase.   With respect to the GNG, I think there are very rarely sources except for such departments. I have often argued in terms of interpreting the "substantial" and even "independent" parts of the rule flexibly, and I continue to do so; but I mean flexible in both directions. In the case of covering the university itself, I would be very liberal in what I would accept as sources; in the case of departments, I would be very restrictive. I do not see sufficient sourcing here, or likely to be available, that would even come within a very flexible standard.  The Department is already listed in the main article, as it should be, and I do not see the point of a redirect--anyone looking for it here would naturally go to the university article. Anyone wanting more information would naturally go to the university web site.    DGG ( talk ) 17:30, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 17:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Pakistan-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 17:40, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 18:38, 20 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete No evidence of notability by this particular department beyond normal processes. AllyD (talk) 18:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment There are also articles for Department of Education, University of Karachi, Department of Persian, University of Karachi, Department of Bengali, University of Karachi and Department of International Relations, University of Karachi. Similar arguments are likely to be applicable to some or all of these articles. AllyD (talk) 18:44, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete These should be deleted as well. They are all unnoteworthy departments of the same university which already has its own article. The only references for all of these articles are from the university's website. They're all essentially less informative summaries of certain sections of the university's website. &mdash;Manicjedi (talk) (contribs) (templates) 19:10, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Note I have bundled the above listed articles with this one. &mdash;Manicjedi (talk) (contribs) (templates) 11:39, 21 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete as non-notable and containing only basic info or Integrate with the other articles mentioned if there is somebody ready to volunteer to do the job. Pundit | utter  19:17, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Message for All Dear friends, I am author of all these articles which are stated above by our friend User:Manicjedi, Its good to identify any article, I appreciated however converting professional clash into personal its not good he reported my user as Sockpuppet as you can see my profile I have created good articles as well such as Halifax Community collage and few others as well and you may see my edit counts too and I honestly respect all the rules and principles of Wikipedia and we all are here to promote and make Wikipedia good place and useful for everyone around the world, but making it personal and reporting something which I have not done its not true, and its not appreciated as well, you all my friends here justify that, Is it correct as he gave the reason which was same IP so let me tell my brother sometimes I do editing from Internet Cafe, It might possible that some one edit it, anyways IN NUT SHELL the bottom of story is, I can allow articles to be deleted however I would like to create articles on Faculties of University, because the faculties of university and let me inform all that, University of Karachi is worlds most prestigious university even current president of United States of America Barack Hussein Obama, has done few courses from university while his visit to Pakistan in his young age, therefore I would request you all to be cooperative please because its not about one individual its all about our own beloved WIKIPEDIA.--Faizanalivarya (talk) 07:06, 22 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment It's nothing personal friend, I would gladly support the creation of notable faculty of the University. This is not a comment about your other contributions or your editing abilities, or you personally. It is simply that these particular articles aren't on a class of topics generally allowed on Wikipedia, written by anyone, about any university, in any country. I reported your use of a sockpuppet because I believe process on Wikipedia should not be circumvented. An IP whose only contributions are to 4 articles completely authored by a single user removing valid AfD and refimprove templates is about as squarely within WP:DUCK as I've ever seen. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Manicjedi (talk • contribs)


 * Delete - I can find no indication that this department within the university is independently notable. The only coverage of singificance I could find was this article alleging that the department ran a "fake" parallel department of criminology. -- Whpq (talk) 16:54, 22 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete I was going to suggest a redirect to University of Karachi but on second thought I don't think that would be useful. It should be obvious to anyone looking for information about these departments to look in the university article. It's most unlikely that they would being their search by looking under "Department of..." --MelanieN (talk) 18:42, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * P.S. I would agree with deleting the other pages mentioned above for the same reasons. --MelanieN (talk) 18:44, 26 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.