Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Depopulation of cockroaches in post-Soviet states


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Talk 00:13, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Depopulation of cockroaches in post-Soviet states

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This having been brought to my attention, all I can see here is a cluster of articles around a particular date plus maybe some other one that doesn't really relate to it. This seems to be a mixture of "quirky news story" and WP:OR, but there's not a lot of reason to believe it amounted to something without better verification. If it's about wild populations of the oriental cockroach, material ought to go in that latter article, but "post-Soviet" is misleading: the Crimea is where it is indigenous. Mangoe (talk) 14:24, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Some further comments: First, I looked at the Russian article, and it isn't substantially different from ours, relying on the same sources. Second, the visitation of these pages isn't really relevant to the accuracy of the article. Finally, one would expect something like this to be reported in something like scientific sources. So far, I'm not seeing that. Mangoe (talk) 23:29, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep:
 * 1. Can be expanded from Russian wiki.
 * 2. Significant daily visits to both the English and Russian article.
 * 3. Quick search of 'исчезли тараканы' (cockroaches disappeared) in Russian shows that it is still being discussed, e.g. in this article in a top Russian online magazine
 * On a side note, however, it may be worth rewriting the article to point out that while a good number of scientists are serious about this, the subject has sometimes been dismissed as an urban legend. Major urban legends, however, are still notable enough for Wikipedia. --Anthony Ivanoff (talk) 16:01, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organisms-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Popular culture-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 16:02, 11 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep, I'd also like to see it expanded from the Russian article. If it's a well known phenomenon in that region, then I see no reason for it's deletion. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Tpdwkouaa (talk • contribs)


 * Keep - Per Shawn in Montreal Anthony Ivanoff. The disappearance of cockroaches in the former USSR seems to be of some significance, which means that it's a good idea to have an article on the subject. Kurtis (talk) 18:29, 11 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Minor note: That was not me, above, but rather an unsigned !vote from a different editor. I've tagged it as such, now. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 14:51, 12 July 2016 (UTC)
 * Oops. Thx/ Tpdwkouaa (talk) 02:54, 14 July 2016 (UTC)
 * I've also fixed my rationale. Sorry about that. Kurtis (talk) 11:53, 15 July 2016 (UTC)


 * Keep - Meets GNG (even if some of the links have gone 404). I've never heard anything about this phenomenon, which strikes me as in some way similar to the hive collapse issue we are having with honeybees in North America. Learn Russian while you work: cockroach = tarakan. Carrite (talk) 15:52, 16 July 2016 (UTC)


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