Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Der Judenstaat

 This page is an archive of the discussion about the proposed deletion of the article below. This page is no longer live. Further comments should be made on the article's talk page rather than here so that this page is preserved as an historic record. The result of the debate was keep. Mackensen (talk) 00:50, 24 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Der Judenstaat
The main feature on this page is the link, might be a candidate for speedy deletion with the new rules --nixie 03:42, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC) This page is now preserved as an archive of the debate and, like some other VfD subpages, is no longer 'live'. Subsequent comments on the issue, the deletion, or the decision-making process should be placed on the relevant 'live' pages. Please do not edit this page.
 * Delete, website advertisement, article as it stands is un-encyclopaedic. Megan1967 04:22, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Umm, that would be a very strong Keep and Expand. A snippet from www.us-israel.org, "Theodor Herzl, the father of political Zionism, outlined his vision for a Jewish state in Der Judenstaat (The Jewish State) ..."  Sounds notable to me. Wolfman 06:45, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Certainly notable and should be expanded, but if not: merge with Theodor Herzl and redirect. It can always be recreated later with more content. (However, the Herzl article already has a link to an English translation of Der Judenstaat. Is there any difference?) / u p p l a n d 09:32, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Speedy Redirect. It's all very well saying expand, but are you going to do it? Whoever created this article appears to have done it purely to advertise their website. If someone else comes along one day and writes a decent article that's all well and good, but today is not that day. &mdash; Trilobite (Talk) 14:30, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * I don't understand the concern over the link. It's not to a commercial site.  It just links to the plain book.  But, since it troubles you, I'll wikisource the book (now done).  This seems like one of the most influential books ever written as far as its impact on modern geopolitics.  A redirect discourages any future development, better to simply delete than that.  In contrast, a brief stub encourages development.  Wolfman 17:58, 16 Feb 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, don't redirect, I agree that discourages further development; please, someone who knows Herzl's work firsthand, expand this! -- Jmabel | Talk 08:08, Feb 17, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep, request expansion somehow. Wile E. Heresiarch 07:32, 18 Feb 2005 (UTC)