Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derby du Languedoc


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Could be argued as no consensus, but the delete and merge, which would keep the contribution for attribution is functionally a keep, and "no evidence of notabilty" without a reason has been refuted by sources Star   Mississippi  20:25, 15 April 2022 (UTC)

Derby du Languedoc

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Just how is this encounter between two neighbouring kick-the-ball outfits notable?? TheLongTone (talk) 15:47, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sports, Football,  and France.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 16:17, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete and merge the information into each of the two club articles. No Great Shaker (talk) 17:00, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * There are derbies as important as this one that exist on Wikipedia ("Derby lorrain"). These two clubs have a very strong rivalry since the 1980s despite few matches between them. The two sources in English as well as those shared on the French version of this article will convince you. Moreover, the two cities are rivals because they are geographically close, have a similar size and fight to be the leader of the Languedoc-Roussillon region. Since the 2000s, the tension between the supporters of both sides has increased with many incidents both in and out of the stadium. The articles in English (sources on the page) will convince you of this. Despite the low popularity of this derby outside France, it is one of the most important football derbies in France. Fexedyte (talk) 18:19, 23 March 2022 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in WikiProject Football's list of association football-related deletions. Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 20:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - no evidence of notability. GiantSnowman 21:58, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * If this article has no "notability", Derby Lorrain or Le Celtico should be deleted as well in this case. It's the same level of rivalry, historically, and in terms of size of clubs and cities. Fexedyte (talk) 23:15, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a great argument for keeping Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:43, 26 March 2022 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   19:00, 30 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 02:26, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment If it is notable, I would at least expect to see some sort of an article in the French wiki. It doesn't appear to have one.... But a quick Google search shows it does, but the articles aren't linked, which I'll do in a minute. The French article is rather extensive, leaning keep at this point. Oaktree b (talk) 04:03, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Yes, this article exists in French. Within this article, you have eight different sources that mention the name "Derby du Languedoc" (this is a name given by the press and not by the fans). You can also translate into English to get a history of the rivalry and incidents that have existed since the 1990s. Fexedyte (talk) 10:38, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * , you are applying WP:BLUDGEON to try and get us to change our minds. Please stop. An "important derby" is something like Liverpool v Everton or Celtic v Rangers. No Great Shaker (talk) 23:30, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * No, I don't want to compare this derby with the derbies you mention, let's be clear. Just to clarify that if articles like "Le Celtico" (which doesn't even exist in French) or the "Derby Lorrain" exist, a derby between Montpellier and Nîmes has entirely its place. And the sources in the press and on the French Wikipepia prove it. I give facts, not more. Fexedyte (talk) 23:39, 24 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Agree with Fexedyte that this is an important derby as this is the primary rivalry for both teams involved - both of these clubs are big clubs in French football with several honors as well. Lots of precedent for less significant derbies not being considered for deletion: Cambridgeshire derby, Nene derby, Essex derby, Lincolnshire derby etc. Exa200 (talk) 17:36, 25 March 2022 (UTC)
 * WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is not a great argument for keeping Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 07:43, 26 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * WP:OTHERSTUFF is not only a poor argument; it is an invitation to AfD the examples given, which are really trivial and dull even by the low bar for kick-the-ball articles.TheLongTone (talk) 12:49, 5 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep A cursory look at the French article shows loads of WP:GNG-surpassing coverage. Terrible nomination, needs improving, not deletion. SportingFlyer  T · C  19:18, 8 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. The proposal describes the subject as an "encounter between two neighbouring kick-the-ball outfits". It is actually the encounter between a team created in 1919 and representing the city of Montpellier, "one of the largest urban centres in the region of Occitania", and an equally historical team that has twice won the national football championship. Hardly yer recreational kick-about at the local park. And try as one might, one can find few, if any, faults with the sourcing. This is a fine Wikipedia article as it is. -The Gnome (talk) 11:15, 14 April 2022 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.