Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Lee Rock


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  13:21, 1 September 2021 (UTC)

Derek Lee Rock

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Does not satisfy WP:BASIC. – DarkGlow • 19:38, 17 August 2021 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete We need way more sourcing than this to show a drummer is notable enough seperate from their band to justify an article on them.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:51, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Qwaiiplayer (talk) 12:17, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete - He was in two notable bands, which causes a problem because there is no perfect destination for a redirect. Even so, this individual article adds non-notable biographical tidbits and is dependent on the achievements of each band which are already covered at their articles. He has done nothing notable outside of either of them. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 14:35, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep WP:Music says "Is an ensemble that contains two or more independently notable musicians, or is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles." Being in two notable bands would meet this imo. BuySomeApples (talk) 23:37, 28 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Note that the first sentence of that guideline states that the person may be notable if any of the following conditions are met. This musician just barely meets that criterion but he has nothing for any of the others because he has never done anything notable beyond performing with those two bands. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 01:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Musicians don't have to meet every criterion, only "at least one of the following criteria" according to the guideline. He's not the most notable musician on Wikipedia, but notable enough to meet guidelines. BuySomeApples (talk) 04:58, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * We can agree to disagree on whether being in two bands is enough, but I absolutely did not say that this guy has to meet every criterion. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 15:22, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * Well how many criterions do you think he has to meet? I figured one was enough because that's the established guideline. BuySomeApples (talk) 18:05, 29 August 2021 (UTC)
 * I'm also thinking about the quality of the encyclopedia. What do we learn from an article on Derek Lee Rock that has reliable and verifiable sources? He was in Suburban Legends which we already know from their article, he was in Melee which we already know from their article, he does some other things that have received no notice, and he twirls his sticks while playing. I repeat that the notability guideline says that a person may be notable if any of those criteria are met. ---  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS) 18:04, 30 August 2021 (UTC)


 * Delete Rather than a simple rote check off of criteria, I'm onboard with the may be notable argument above from  DOOMSDAYER 520 (TALK&#124;CONTRIBS), especially when one considers one of the bands he was with, Suburban Legends, was a rotating door of musicians to fill the shift work needs for multiple daily shows at a theme park. ShelbyMarion (talk) 12:55, 1 September 2021 (UTC)


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