Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek Ramsey (Wikipedian)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge. (non-admin closure) Clear consensus to merge, so I don't see any reason to drag on the discussion. JDDJS (talk) 15:44, 21 May 2014 (UTC)

Derek Ramsey (Wikipedian)

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WP:ONEEVENT JDDJS (talk) 22:36, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge per Arxiloxos (see below). Delete per WP:BLP1E. Now, I'm not saying that Ramsey's contribution to Wikipedia was not significant. He wrote a bot that nearly doubled the size of the encyclopedia, many years ago. It's a step forward that's important to us as Wikipedians, but so what? It's just really not notable at all outside of our community here. You can look up a few books about Wikipedia that mention him but they don't come close to significant coverage. Our systemic bias as editors naturally leads us to consider things that are important to us (as individuals or as a community) as being important to everyone, but if there aren't sources to reflect our view then it's just not there. This is one of those cases. Ivanvector (talk) 23:58, 20 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Comment: I meant to add: the few sources I found which were books about Wikipedia used Ramsey as an example to show how average people (i.e. Ramsey) could make significant contributions to the project. This does more to suggest that he's not notable per our standards. Ivanvector (talk) 00:02, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Internet-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:10, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
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 * Don't delete. I sometimes see a systematic bias at work against detailed coverage of Wikipedia topics, perhaps derived from a community ethos that discourages "navel-gazing". Anyway, at a minimum, this content should be merged and redirected to History of Wikipedia (where Ramsey's bot is already mentioned, but without the sources), not deleted. --Arxiloxos (talk) 00:31, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * That seems fair. Changed my !vote. Ivanvector (talk) 03:13, 21 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Merge. Sure, sounds fine.  We could just copy and paste the reference right now, you know.  But I'll play along.  I'd have just copied the reference manually and then nominated the article for bio for deletion. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 06:24, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Merge per WP:SNOW. Bearian (talk) 15:07, 21 May 2014 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.