Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Derek ogilvie


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The result was   no consensus.  MBisanz  talk 00:26, 27 December 2008 (UTC)

Derek ogilvie

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Celebrity hound with no notability, as stated in the single notable reference included (The Guardian UK): Funniest Moment Of The Year was the sight of Derek Ogilvie, Channel 5's truly horrid "Baby Mind Reader", bursting into self-pitying tears during The Million Dollar Psychic, when his powers were tested by scientists and found to be non-existent. Oliver  Twisted  (Talk)  14:04, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete no evidence of notability. Mayalld (talk) 14:09, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete--no notability. Google delivers nothing but non-notable stuff (blogs etc.), and this guy's mainly a bad psychic, if I am to believe some of the hits. Drmies (talk) 14:57, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Those blog hits are mainly a result of a spamming campaign of people who don't like Ogilvie. Have you read the Dutch newspapers in the last half year? He even got a full page interview in one of the countries free newspapers (Spits, Metro and De Pers). If we are to believe James Randi all psychics are fake, but we don't judge them on their supposed powers, but on the verifiability of their media attention. - Mgm|(talk) 18:43, 22 December 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep I don't think Ogilvie or others of his ilk could ever be descibed as notable, but given that he's had a fairly controversial national TV show in the UK (The Baby Whisperer) as well as the various other TV appearances, I think his profile is high enough in the UK to merit a short Wikipedia entry (though something a lot better written and researched than this one).  --Funkanova (talk) 15:50, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep. He didn't do the show just in the UK. He also presented a local version in the Netherlands. According to recent news article I read viewed by at least a couple million people in the Netherlands alone. Also the author of a book published with a notable publisher in multiple countries. Also, from our own article on James Randi: "Starting on April 1, 2007 only those with an already existing media profile and the backing of a reputable academic would be allowed to apply for the challenge." So even though he failed said challenge, he's still a notable 'psychic' with enough media coverage according to a skeptic. (Disclosure: I've got this article on my wishlist and if it wasn't created, I probably would've done so myself this year). - Mgm|(talk) 18:39, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep - but shouldn't the surname be capitalized? Usrnme h8er (talk) 22:59, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
 * Yes it should, but that's something to change after the AFD has finished so links don't get broken. - 131.211.211.25 (talk) 08:18, 23 December 2008 (UTC)


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