Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dermot McGlinchey


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Liz Read! Talk! 19:04, 12 December 2023 (UTC)

Dermot McGlinchey

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Currently sourced only to a WP:SPS, but we should "Never use self-published sources as third-party sources about living people, even if the author is an expert, well-known professional researcher, or writer." The subject appears to fail WP:GNG; I conducted a web search, and reviewed matches on newspapers.com, and did not find any significant coverage in independent, reliable sources. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:58, 21 November 2023 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Eddie891 Talk Work 15:00, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Sportspeople, Cue sports,  and Northern Ireland. BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 11:58, 21 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Inclined toward keeping or at least draftifying, since he's a national (N.Ir.) champion, and national champions usually turn out to be notable. The problem for us is that material on snooker from this far back is usually on paper, so it's going to take research into newspaper archives and print snooker magazines and the like.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:45, 22 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I can't get to NewsBank because of the British Library's ongoing IT problems, but apart from newspapers.com as mentioned above, I also checked the British Newspaper Archive, which has numerous passing mentions but no significant coverage as far as I could find. For 1991, the World Professional Billiards and Snooker Association opened membership to anyone who paid a fee. The November 1990 Snooker Scene reported that there were 443 new snooker professionals, including McGlinchey; in a monthly magazine with only around 32 pages, obviously there was not going to be room to provide in-depth coverage of all of the new intake alongside all of the other snooker and billiards news and reports. Cue World had already been merged into Snooker Scene by that point, and from the issues of Pot Black I have from around that time, it seems unlikely that they would have given any more coverage than Snooker Scene, despite their higher page count. In my opinion, it would be very unlikely that a player who never reached the top 100 in the rankings would get significant coverage in the snooker press after 1990, unless there was something apart from their results to report on. The Snooker Scene coverage of McGlinchey's 2006 national amateur title (in the July 2006 issue) would perhaps scrape throught as one suitable source, although it's mostly quotes from him. The magazine's report on his 2010 win (in the July 2010 issue) is two short paragaphs of very routine coverage. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 00:00, 23 November 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Keep: WP:CUENOT In the case of large countries, if the player has won a major regional championship (e.g. at the state level in the US; or the England, Scotland, Wales or Northern Ireland level in the UK), they may also qualify and Professional players should have their own articles if they have won an international or national championship organized by a major organization in the sport (i.e. local leagues emphatically do not qualify), or are highly ranked in their sport. I am not sure if this is enough.
 * Hi,, please note that WP:CUENOT mentions in its introduction that it "should not be relied upon in the article deletion process, which is subject to Wikipedia policies and guidelines, not wikiproject recommendations." If you know of any reliable sources that cover McGlinchey, let me know. Regards, BennyOnTheLoose (talk) 23:49, 28 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I could find nothing online apart from trivial mentions. Jeraxmoira (talk) 04:55, 29 November 2023 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 17:45, 5 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. I can find nothing notable about this player, who seems never to have got past the last 64 of any professional event or accomplished anything else of note during his brief stints on the professional tour. Simply winning the (amateur) Northern Irish Championship does not in itself make him notable. Many of the other winners and runners-up do not have Wikipedia entries either -- and those that do, like Mark Allen and Jordan Brown, are notable for other reasons. HurricaneHiggins (talk) 16:31, 29 November 2023 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. In the absence of any SIGCOV in IRS, we have no evidence this individual is notable. CUENOT is an essay, not a notability guideline, and holds no sway at AfD. JoelleJay (talk) 01:06, 11 December 2023 (UTC)
 * Additional comment: Here are some narrowed Google News hits ; I have not pored over the few results yet to see if they're helpful.  — SMcCandlish ☏ ¢ 😼  20:07, 11 December 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.