Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Des Moines Women’s Club


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The result was speedy keep. Nomination withdrawn. (non-admin closure) Magnolia677 (talk) 10:50, 21 December 2020 (UTC)

Des Moines Women’s Club

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:ORG. Unable to locate any significant biographical details about this organization in secondary sources. Two large sections of the article--the Hoyt Sherman Place and the art gallery--are only slightly related to this organization. There is no doubt this a generous and benevolent organization, but I'm not seeing the notability. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Iowa-related deletion discussions. Magnolia677 (talk) 21:51, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  22:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Women-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone  22:10, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * First of all, the Des Moines Women's Club owned and operated Hoyt Sherman Place from 1906 to 1995. During that time the Club built the two galleries and the theater, significantly more than half the square footage of the building.  In addition the club bought and collected the entire art collection and opened the first art gallery in Des Moines.  Many of the newspaper articles I have cited describe this in detail.  Do I need to outline for you what is in the articles??  It is very wrong to say these institutions are only slightly related to Des Moines Women's Club.  In addition, the club is very notable for its history and it's influence in the civic life of Des Moines, funding and developing the first city plan, working to develop the Public Library and lobbying for a Des Moines Water Works.  I can't help wondering if the comments is saying this because he believes no women's organization is notable.  I have added some additional quotes from the articles I have cited.  — Preceding unsigned comment added by Lrtruck (talk • contribs) 23:22, 20 December 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep This article was nominated for deletion less than two hours after it was moved into the main article namespace.  That seems a bit hasty to me, for an article that clearly doesn't meet any of the criteria for speedy deletion.   If it is felt that this article references too few significant secondary sources, why not add a "more citations needed" tag, rather than just trash a page for which additional secondary sources might be found?  If adequate secondary sourcing is not done after the article's creator has been made aware of the problem, then perhaps a deletion discussion would be appropriate. I think it's pretty likely that a 135 year old organization that funded the first city plan for the state's capital city, has a long standing scholarship fund, etc can be adequately documented as notable.PopePompus (talk) 08:40, 21 December 2020 (UTC)


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