Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Desert Uniforms, Patches, and Insignia of the US Armed Forces


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 09:06, 20 December 2016 (UTC)

Desert Uniforms, Patches, and Insignia of the US Armed Forces

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The page seems to be advertising a to-be-released book, with no reliable sources other than the publisher's website. A couple of Facebook pages are the only other source of information. It has been linked from a few articles related to the subject matter of the book, but there is no great detail about the book's notability, especially as it is not released. UaineSean (talk) 19:34, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Military-related deletion discussions. Gabe Iglesia (talk) 21:16, 12 December 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete as it stands This is actually going to be a useful reference when it comes out, however the article itself is as noted above a little too advertisementy to be here in its current form. If better sources are provided and a rewrite achieved I would entertain the idea of shifting my vote. TomStar81 (Talk) 00:19, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep - Wikipedia guidelines allow Not-yet-published books to have articles. Assess deletion once the book is published and reviews are available to link to to determine notability. Ehrentitle (talk) 00:35, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and assess notability once the book comes out seems to be the more standard order, right? Smmurphy(Talk) 04:08, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment Deletion might have been appropriate if the page was created yesterday, however it's been standing for nine months, since April. It will be the singular published reference on this topic, and to call for deletion two weeks before publication I believe would be a bit counter-productive now as reviews will soon follow supporting it's notability. Wikipedia guidelines allow articles on Not-yet-published books in anticipation of the book being notable in its own right. It also meets the guidelines of having strong evidence that the book will be published, which includes the title of the book, ISBN and date of publication. Ehrentitle (talk) 04:34, 13 December 2016 (UTC)
 * The only problem with that is that we cannot guarantee that the book will get reviews and if it does, if they would be the type that would be considered independent, reliable sources on Wikipedia. That runs afoul of WP:CRYSTAL, as I've seen books that should have received enough coverage to justify passing NBOOK - only for them to never gather that coverage. I'm not talking about niche, indie, or self-published books, but works put out by major authors that routinely end up on the NYT's bestseller list. There's just no guarantee there and at this point in time I don't see where you pass notability guidelines. I must also caution you that you must disclose your COI on Wikipedia. While searching for coverage for this book I found a forum post where someone with an identical username stated that they were one of the two authors. Your username is pretty unique, so it seems unlikely that this is a different person. Something like this poses a big WP:COI and absolutely must be disclosed. Tokyogirl79 (｡◕‿◕｡)  07:10, 16 December 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete -- does not meet WP:NBOOK as it's obviously WP:TOOSOON] to have an article on this subject. K.e.coffman (talk) 03:44, 16 December 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete, does not meet WP:NBOOK, or WP:GNG, have been unable to find any reviews for this book, that btw can be available prior to release, may be a case of WP:TOOSOON. Coolabahapple (talk) 16:31, 19 December 2016 (UTC)


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