Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dev Ross


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Consensus is relatively clear here that that the subject of the article is sufficiently notable and therefore should be kept, but could use a bit of TLC. (non-admin closure) Steven   Zhang  Help resolve disputes! 09:41, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

Dev Ross

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Non-notable screenwriter lacking GHIts and GNEWS of substance. Awards appear to be local (with the exception of the Humanitas Award) and non consequential in nature. Support for awards is based on Zoominfo, non-independent data. Fails WP:BIO. red dog six (talk) 04:15, 8 April 2013 (UTC)

'Keep' Dev is an Emmy, Humanitas, and PBS ACT Award, so awards are "national", not local. Programs were for Disney, PBS, ABC, etc., please review the sites, again, as they were all national. I've added the Emmy reference, but it keeps crashing, that's why I didn't add it to begin with. I'm a genealogist, so I'm VERY particular about my sources. Yes, info is based on Zoominfo, as I cannot scan in Dev's college transcript, but the Zoominfo was not entered by Dev, it was entered by other sources, indicating Dev was the director and on the Executive Board, so the information was "independent".

I have included many more links and would appreciate you removing your deletion notice. People who worked for Dev at Disney have their own page and Dev is mentioned throughout Wiki, as she is simply by Googling her name, so she is not "non consequential". If you know who "Darkwing Duck", "Land Before Time", "The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" or even "Monsters High" are, then you know who Dev Ross is. She is the woman who gave the characters the thoughts that the actors could voice...in some cases, she is the voice. If you or anyone you know watched animation on Disney, ABC, PBS, or an affiliate in the 1990's, most likely, they were watching something Dev was involved with.

Like almost all Wiki pages, this one is a work in progress. As time permits, as I receive more information, as people who are aficionados come forth with more information, I expect the page to grow. I listed this as a "stub". In edits by others, this got lost. Before you saw it, other information, including some of my valuable links, were also deleted, and since they were secondary and tertiary, I'm not sure why. I have spent more time working with administrators than I have working on this article. It was meant to link all of the Dev information together that is already on Wiki so that people can find it in one place and then know who the woman is, as she changed how the children of that era think and imagine, thereby, how their lives will be. I didn't put how Dev has raised over 30 foster kids and has 2 emus as I've only "heard" about that. Maybe someday I'll actually find out!

Your kind action to remove your deletion protest would be much appreciated. Thank you! Smacorder (talk) 06:50, 8 April 2013 (UTC)


 * Comment. I'm having trouble verifying the Emmy wins and nominations. The current references are unacceptable. IMDb only lists one (joint) nomination to go with the Humanitas. Clarityfiend (talk) 08:27, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Response. I have repeatedly placed the reference to the "emmy.com website, but it has been removed, as the link is broken. I will continue to try and have the webmaster fix the site.  Anything else I have tried to use as reference has been also deleted as not substantial enough for verification, including Wiki pages that have already been approved.  Without the actual site for the Emmy's, everything else is someone else's reporting.  I am working on this significant detail.  Unfortunately, they do not televise the awards for animation writers, so YouTube footage or similar media is out. Smacorder (talk) 16:51, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * 'Response'. I have added more links to other verifying sources for additional awards. The Daytime Emmy website is still not responding. Smacorder (talk) 22:53, 8 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. The references are still execrable (now there's a word I don't use every day). Have you read WP:Reliable sources? The alleged win for TNRC PRESENTS doesn't agree with IMDb, which says that she was only nominated, along with ten of her fellow workers. Similarly, she is not named by IMDb in the The Return of Jafar nomination. Clarityfiend (talk) 03:36, 10 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Response. I'm working on the TNRC for the IMDb entry to update it. Since working on this article, my computer took a drink of water and I've been off-line.  I did update the Wiki Article with the name of the Series which Ms. Ross received the award.  Here is the IMDb link that shows her on The Return of Jafar writers. I hope that helps!Smacorder (talk) 18:19, 17 April 2013 (UTC)


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 * Keep. It's close, but I think this is a keep. This article needs some love, but even in its current state I think this is appropriate Wikipedia content. The subject is an award winning writer (Emmy, ACT, Annie, Humanitas) verifiable by third party sources. -- NINTENDUDE 64 02:40, 13 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep article needs cleanup and a bit of a dusting off, but the subject is clearly notable enough, given the awards won. -- Jayron  32  03:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep Winning the Humanitas Prize for screenwriting is a strong claim of notability. Barbara Walters said "What the Nobel Prize is to literature and the Pulitzer Prize is to journalism, the Humanitas Prize has become for American television." This is not just an honor, she also won $10,000. This person's career both as a screenwriter and as a children's book author is long and distinguished. The article needs work and the references need to be formatted better, but Ross is notable in my judgment.  Cullen 328  Let's discuss it  05:32, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep I'm convinced that the subject's awards are sufficiently verifiable, especially the Humanitas Prize which is alone enough. The Winnie the Pooh show did indeed win the Emmy in 1989, and Dev Ross was credited with writing in 1988, and thus getting the Emmy makes sense. Not solid proof, but it is strong enough for the article to be spared deletion while a more reliable reference (Daytime Emmy's website is indeed down) is found. Richard Yetalk 07:59, 18 April 2013 (UTC)
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