Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devdas (1937 film)


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  00:06, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Devdas (1937 film)

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This article is asserted to be substantially incorrect, and was speedy tagged for that reason, but I don't see it as an obvious hoax (vandalism); it is, however, unsourced, other than from IMDB (which is not a reliable source, being user-edited); in any case, the IMDB stuff disagrees in part with what the article says. Guy (Help!) 20:35, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * delete A search on imdb for the director shows no film of this name for 1937. A gScholar search yielded a fairly lengthy article that referenced another film from 1937 that was thematically similar, leading me to believe, well, something. Maybe the author got confused?Vulture19 (talk) 23:37, 18 February 2009 (UTC) COMMENT I was contacted and given some more information. Given that info, I retract my delete entry.Vulture19 (talk) 20:29, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * That was me diff informing an editor that I found a source. I did not request he change his opinion, simply informed of a souce being added since his first comment.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 22:24, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * delete If Mr Barua directed Devdas in Asamese language, it should be remarkable film in this language.But imdb search shows only 93 Assamese titles. First assamese movie Joymoti was released in the year 1935. Then second assamese movie Indramalati(1939). Mr Barua born in Assam but he directed films bengali and hindi language.-Thanks. Jayanta Nath  (Talk 05:11, 19 February 2009 (UTC)COMMENT I was also contacted and I retract my delete entry.-Thanks.  Jayanta Nath  (Talk 05:04, 23 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep Imdb is not RS, for what it contains nor what it omits.  refers to it and the director. Should be dispositive.  gives a date of 1935 however.  and 1936 is in    What we are left with is the apparently chaotic state of film distribution in India during the Depression.  The article (with a query as to actual year possibly) shoud remain.  Barua was Assamese.  Collect (talk) 14:14, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions.  —PC78 (talk) 20:26, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * STRONG Keep Sources, though difficult to find, are available toward this particular film and its historic notability in the development of cinema in India.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 21:34, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep, needs a few references, not an afd.Smallman12q (talk) 23:05, 21 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment I found sourcing to show Barua making an Assamese version in 1937 and added it to the article: Multiple Takes: Devdas’s journey in Indian cinema -- from the silent era of the 1920s to the opulent Hindi blockbuster of 2002. Pity IMDB did not catch it. Others have.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 10:11, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep per above. Re: "it is...unsourced" WP:INTROTODELETE & WP:POTENTIAL "Remember that deletion is a last resort. Deletion nominations rarely improve articles, and deletion should not be used as a way to improve an article, or a reaction to a bad article. It is appropriate for articles which cannot be improved." Ikip (talk) 18:10, 22 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Well..... it took more than a cursory search. I easily found many sources that simply listed the two 1935 versions and skipped on to the 1955, but I found the answer in an in-depth article about the phenomona about the entire fascination with Devdas in India film, covering the original and 9 of the 10 remakes (didn't cover the 2008 version). IMDB has its strong points and its weak. One weak one is that it does not contain every film ever made. So we use it as a starting point and look elswhere... and then find the gold.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 18:51, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Keep. MQS's sources are sufficient.--Michig (talk) 19:06, 22 February 2009 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.