Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devious (Doctor Who)


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The result was redirect to The War Games. Liz Read! Talk! 21:42, 17 January 2023 (UTC)

Devious (Doctor Who)

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Appears to fail WP:NFF. Non notable production for this unofficial fan film. Donald D23  talk to me  16:37, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Film and United Kingdom.  Donald D23   talk to me  16:37, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Science fiction and fantasy-related deletion discussions.  Spiderone (Talk to Spider) 18:18, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Does not warrant article at all. Thank you and have a good day.Tvshowoflife (talk) 20:50, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * @Tvshowoflife Friendly ping so you can check comments below and reconsider your vote (to redirect, perhaps). Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 04:02, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect. I am sorry I was not aware of the War Games despite liking Doctor Who a lot. Thank you and have a good day.m Tvshowoflife (talk) 17:46, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment - It does arguably have some notability in that in it is probably the most discussed Doctor Who fan production and featured Jon Pertwee's final appearance as the Doctor. However I am doubtful that is enough for an article on its own and some of what is in the article is not particularly encyclopaedic material. Perhaps a mention in the Home Media section of The War Games would be better? Dunarc (talk) 23:59, 10 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect. "upcoming fan-made story" with an entry that appears not to have been updated since creation over 10 years ago? A redirect would be superior to pure deletion, per User:Dunarc. The mention needs to be based on some reliable source actually mentioning this, too. I'd be fine with redirect to The War Games if we can find a reliable ref that connects those topics (the ref in the article has rotten, but I derotted it to https://web.archive.org/web/20150805010323/http://www.denofgeek.com/dvd-bluray/8198/doctor-who-the-war-games-dvd-review and it does briefly mention this, so if we think denofgeek is reliable, I guess that will be ok to use). --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 06:19, 13 January 2023 (UTC)
 * That sounds like a good option - I'll see if I can find any other sources out there. Dunarc (talk) 23:58, 13 January 2023 (UTC)


 * Redirect to The War Games. I was leaning delete because I couldn't find significant coverage of the film anywhere, but the den of geek review of The War Games points out that it's in the DVD release for that serial, so it could be worth mentioning that somewhere in the The War Games article, and then this would be a useful redirect. I'll actually go add that to the article now in the home release section. OliveYouBean (talk) 02:53, 14 January 2023 (UTC)
 * Redirect to The War Games. As a fan, I would love for Doctor Who fan films to be included on Wikipedia, but I think it's obvious that only completed ones should be on here. Perhaps it can be re-introduced once the films are completed. HadesTTW (he/him • talk) 23:32, 14 January 2023 (UTC)


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