Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Devon Hern


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The result was   delete. Mark Arsten (talk) 00:42, 2 December 2013 (UTC)

Devon Hern

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Not notable. Lacks coverage in multiple independent reliable sources, passing mentions only. One of a glut of of articles on seemingly non notable St Peter's College old boys. Wikipedia is not a webhost for a collection bios of a schools former students. duffbeerforme (talk) 08:35, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Businesspeople-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New Zealand-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 11:29, 12 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Not notable businessman with a few mentions in books of questionable reliability/independence, but nothing significant and in-depth. It sounds like Campbell & Ehrenfried or the Myers family might be a more notable topic, and he could be mentioned in an article on them. But there must be a question mark over whether book The Myers is a reliable source: it's an authorised biography, is produced by a company that does a mix of legit and vanity publishing, and co-author Paul Goldsmith has according to his article been accused of being secretly paid to write biographies. The other published source, John Tamihere Black and White, is an autobiography by a friend of Hern's son. The present article is bolstered by quote-mining: notability requires comments/analysis by the author, not quotes which are primary sources. I was amused when researching to find the following
 * "Devon Hern." Kraven said, reading off a pad. "Uncaught serial killer. He has tortured and murdered 300 men, women and children."
 * But that's from fanfiction.net which is definitely not a reliable source. So, serious question marks over the sources, and no clear evidence of notability. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:24, 13 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep, The Myers is by Dr Michael Bassett and Goldstone. Michael Bassett is, occasionally, a serious historian. Above contribution be Colapeninsula is greatly appreciated though.Rick570 (talk) 21:36, 17 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Coverage of Hern in that book is not non trivial. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:39, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, SarahStierch (talk) 18:31, 22 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep made an important contribution to NZ liquor industry and is well-referenced in two reputable sources.Rick570 (talk) 20:43, 23 November 2013 (UTC)
 * Please don't !vote twice. Important contribution according to who? Article might have a lot of references but none are independent reliable sources that provide any depth of coverage about Hern. duffbeerforme (talk) 02:44, 25 November 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 00:55, 24 November 2013 (UTC)


 * 'Delete As per nom. Fails GNG. Lacks multiple, independent sources and therefore fails WP:SIGCOV. DerbyCountyinNZ (Talk Contribs) 19:15, 26 November 2013 (UTC)
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