Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dharma Bells


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Bianzhong.  MBisanz  talk 03:09, 30 January 2013 (UTC)

Dharma Bells

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Part of a spam cluster. Previous group deleted at Articles for deletion/Viscount Bells. This was previously nominated as part of a group at Articles for deletion/Stone marimba. That closed with a suggestion to relist individually. No real claim to notability. Lacks coverage in independent reliable sources. Mix of bad sources, original research, linkspamming and promotion. Refs used are not independent reliable sources and include multiple links to article creators business. This is not really an article about the instrument but a coatrack to talk about "Percussion legend Emil Richards". Named by him as part of his personal collection but there is no good evidence of any wider use. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:17, 8 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep. The article isn't encyclopedic in tone but the topic is encyclopedic. It could be stubified or perhaps merged to Emil Richards for the moment, but deletion is not the best way forward, and will just lead to more recreation. The solution is to develop good coverage of the topic(s). Disagree that it's purely part of a spam cluster, but there are definitely possible COI issues that nobody seems to have addressed, remembering WP:AGF (diffs please if there have been attempts I've missed). Happy to work with the contributor(s) to resolve the issues. Andrewa (talk) 23:01, 8 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Music-related deletion discussions. — Frankie (talk) 13:35, 11 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 00:12, 15 January 2013 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Courcelles 02:25, 22 January 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete Although the term Dharma Bells is sometimes used to refer to Asian prayer bells or similar instruments, this arrangement, with them fixed to a rectangular frame, is unique to Richards, and the article has no information about the Asian instrument. I looked for sources and couldn't find very much at all. Delete unless a suitable merge target can be found, and in that case only do a selective merge. --Colapeninsula (talk) 10:31, 22 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Redirect to Bianzhong Per nomination: the term does not seem to be independently notable enough for an article. I also couldn't find much in the way of references. In books, the reference quoted in the article probably refers to the refers to the Bianzhong but is a very brief mention. Between Bianzhong and Singing bowl I think we have the encyclopedic topics covered. Mcewan (talk) 17:34, 28 January 2013 (UTC)
 * Comment. An attempt to change this into an independently sourced article has changed the focus from the Dharma Bells (cap B) that this was about, a specific arragement for Richards, to dharma bells (small b), a percussion instrument better known by another name. A article on the latter may be appropriate at a more common name but this is not it. duffbeerforme (talk) 11:49, 29 January 2013 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.