Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dial-the-Truth Ministries


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The result was delete. ✗ plicit  23:44, 4 August 2022 (UTC)

Dial-the-Truth Ministries

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Sources are WP:PRIMARY or promotional in tone. No better sources found. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 17:48, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Religion and Websites. Ten Pound Hammer • (What did I screw up now?) 15:27, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep based on nom's reason. If the reason is sources, consider that there are 3 secondary sources that are academic in nature (from reputable academic authors, such as David Gauntlett) and are, in fact, relatively neutral, primarily using this group as an example of a specific sub-culture. Also, the use of the primary sources here is WP:PRIMARY #3 - stating a fact about what they believe (which, I'd argue, sounds far more conspiratorial/fringe than promotional to me).   Butler Blog   (talk) 15:48, 25 July 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The first secondary source is a passing mention ("According to Terry Watkins, head of Dial-the-Truth Ministries [unrelated claim]"). The second secondary source, at best, provides one sentence of coverage on the subject. I can't access the third secondary source, but given the context it seems likely to be another passing mention and one source can't singlehandedly make an article notable anyway. * Pppery * it has begun... 00:16, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete per Pppery. Andrevan @ 02:35, 1 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete. Fails WP:NORG because Barnet and Gauntlett both are passing mentions. I have found other mentions in books like The Oxford Handbook of the Bible in America (2017) and in Contextualization in the context of mainstream 'rock' music listeners (2005), but these too are passing mentions. SWinxy (talk) 19:23, 4 August 2022 (UTC)


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