Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diamondbacks–Rockies rivalry


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Delete‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. There is a consensus to delete despite 2 keep !votes. One !vote to keep was based on underrepresentation of the Rockies but, as Frank Anchor noted, that is not a policy-based rationale. The other keep !vote posited 2 articles purporting to support the subject, but as Frank Anchor noted, one is a blog so would not count toward GNG under our guidelines, and even if the other fully conforms with GNG, GNG requires multiple independent reliable sources. So there are no keep !votes supported by Wikipedia guidelines. Rlendog (talk) 21:25, 26 May 2023 (UTC)

Diamondbacks–Rockies rivalry

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Article describes a non-existent rivalry between two teams that just happen to compete in the same division. This topic does not pass GNG based on the below source analysis table. Article reads as WP:FANCRUFT and the only sources available on a WP:BEFORE search are routine mentions or fan blogs.  Frank  Anchor  16:13, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Frank might I ask the process to nominate articles for deletion? I know of several who are candidates PontiacAurora (talk) 21:22, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Please refer to Articles for deletion.  Frank  Anchor  21:37, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Baseball-related deletion discussions. Hey man im josh (talk) 16:20, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Arizona-related deletion discussions.  Frank  Anchor  16:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Colorado-related deletion discussions.  Frank  Anchor  16:27, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom. Sources demonstrate that the Rockies and Diamondbacks play against each other, not that their matchups comprise a "rivalry". – Muboshgu (talk) 17:03, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete One of the only sources mentioning the rivalry is a tweet, not exactly the most reliable, same with the others (either unreliable or mention it in passing). Not enough to justify a full article. ULPS (talk) 18:02, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete. Pretty much the exact same case as the recently deleted AstrosBraves rivalry article. I see nothing here indicating a rivalry outside of the teams playing each other, which does not a rivalry make. Nohomersryan (talk) 19:04, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I feel like the Rockies are far too under-represented across wikipedia, or in the baseball archives as a whole, there's enough to warrant a substantial existence of a lower-key divisional rivalry, particularly during the 2000s and the 2017 NLWC. PontiacAurora (talk) 21:25, 15 May 2023 (UTC)
 * A user’s claims of a team being underrepresented are not grounds for keeping an article that fails GNG. Also, any claims of a “lower-key divisional rivalry” are not supported by references.  Lots of pairs of teams go through stretches in which both are simultaneously playoff contenders for a few years and possibly meet ina playoff series.  That however does not establish a rivalry.  Frank   Anchor  21:42, 15 May 2023 (UTC)


 * Delete per convincing nomination and SA table. WP:NOTEVERYTHING. &#8213;  "Ghost of Dan Gurney" (talk)  08:32, 18 May 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep There's enough evidence to suggest that the Arizona Diamondbacks & Colorado Rockies should be considered as divisional rivals. I have multiple non primary sources to suggest this is a rivalry, per SBNation. & DenverPost.com. Charlesaaronthompson (talk) 06:27, 19 May 2023 (UTC)
 * The SB nation source is a fan blog which explains that the two teams have been simultaneously competitive for a brief stretch in the late 2010s. It includes language of "starting to grow a rivalry" and that maybe this series "could be up there with that of the Dodgers and Giants or the Red Sox and Yankees" (two well-known MLB rivalries).  But it does not establish a rivalry is present (and there wasno follow-up from that continuing coverage of a rivalry) ❌.  The Denver Post source is routine coverage of a single game which happens the term "rivalry" in the title and describes the teams as "geographic rivals" in the prose, but does nothing to describe the teams as "rivals" in a way that could not be used for any set of two teams ❌.  Certainly not enough here to establish the existence of a rivalry by GNG-standards.  Frank   Anchor  12:13, 19 May 2023 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.