Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diana: The Rose Conspiracy


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The result was   keep. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:26, 13 September 2013 (UTC)

Diana: The Rose Conspiracy

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Prodded but deprodded without addressing the concerns. The prod reason was:
 * Not notable: does not satisfy WP:NFILM, based on sources or a search which turns up little except video links. Only possibility would be if it were known by some other name in other languages but it seems to be "The Rose Conspiracy" even in Spanish, Portuguese.

Further the claim (which might make it notable) that "it was selected as one of the best works by the Italian Art Critics Association at the Venice Biennale" seems dubious – I can't find it in the sources. Otherwise it seems to only have very limited local coverage and interest. JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 21:17, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Keep as I pointed out when I de-prodded it, the article does have two WP:RS already, and my Google News archive search revealed what appears to be a third, the Panama Online news ref. I stopped there because three refs is my own personal minimum for "multiple sources," so I felt it met WP:GNG -- but there well may be more Spanish-language news refs, I do not know. Now, I agree that the first news ref, the bylined Reuters news story, doesn't support the statement that it won a major award at the Biennale, but that's not a reason to delete. The claim that "it seems to only have very limited local coverage and interest" is belied by the fact that the 2nd ref verifies that it was selected for the prestigious Venice Biennale, which is rather far away from Uruguay. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:02, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:04, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Uruguay-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:05, 7 September 2013 (UTC)




 * Keep a minor short film that received just enough recognition: (three sources) Infobae UOL Terra We do not expect films seen only in museums and art spaces to have the same level of coverage as do big-budget, highly-advertised, stdio-blockbusters... but this did have a London screening in 2008  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 22:42, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Fwiw, the other one I was mentioning is here. It's more of a short capsule item, I admit, and likely a pick up of the Reuters piece, as both are Portuguese. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:09, 7 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Which gives us yet another search parameter, thank you:  Searches for Non-English sourcing is proving somewhat more fruitful.   Schmidt,  Michael Q. 00:38, 8 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Keep Uruguay isn't anything like the USA, or even Argentina, so the short art films won't give any top results, but still if one is looking for characteristic samples of Uruguayan cinema he might as well get some articles about them. Locally, Martín Sastre is quite a name in the art cinema and the contemporary art scene. I don't say any short film of his is worth an article, some are just made as art exhibits, but this one has been around for a while, and it tells something about his background. I am for keeping it. Hoverfish Talk 00:55, 8 September 2013 (UTC)
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