Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diana Chire


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Lankiveil (speak to me) 03:24, 30 March 2018 (UTC)

Diana Chire

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Fails WP:GNG and WP:DIRECTOR, as the article subject has only recently made her debute in the field and thus has not accrued significant coverage SamHolt6 (talk) 21:37, 21 March 2018 (UTC)
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 * Comment I did some research and found these additional sources:    Theredproject (talk) 13:42, 22 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Trivial mentions in passing are usually not applicable as in-depth sources. For example, this source list the article subject trivially as one out of the top 16 dynamic female artists in London.--SamHolt6 (talk) 14:29, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
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 * Delete: Come on! I could not find anything significant so did some research on the researched sources above. Fails GNG as lacks secondary sources over primary and fails all four criterion of WP:ARTIST. The first, an i-D fashion site titled the guerilla exhibition promoting women artists on the doorstep of frieze gives passing mention. The second, also an i-D site (does not add to notability count) is titled this artist shaved her head to get back to her roots and discusses that "Diana Chire’s body is her canvas". The third, "ASOS" is a fashion-feed site that at least addresses the subject. The last one is FAD (Art news, exhibitions, and competitions) titled 16 of the most dynamic female artists in London exhibiting on the doorstep of Frieze. Although the refbombing might indicate a Hey award, it might be too soon. She Zine intersectional feminist blog and quarterly digital magazine was founded by the editor-in-chief (and contributing editor) Allison Moyer. I could find Nikki Vergakes, the Culture & News Contributor When I tried to access the "Contributors" link I was redirected back to the page with Moyer and Vergakes and nothing on the subject which qualifies this under What Wikipedia is not. A lot of work to see a POV pushed very poorly sourced likely career stub pseudo-biography of a non-notable living person. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Otr500 (talk • contribs)
 * Weak Keep there are a few decent sources like (the W magazine profile) out there. Seems like GNG might be met. Pinging 104.163.147.121 (talk) 21:35, 24 March 2018 (UTC)
 *  Weak Delete Neutral This one shares some overlap with Articles_for_deletion/Alexandra_Bischoff but in this case there is no work in any collections, and not as consistent an exhibition record. Prob TOOSOON but it could be viable in a couple years, so deletion without prejudice for future recreation. Theredproject (talk) 17:01, 25 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep I improved her article and added additional citations. She been discussed in English, Italian and French in many magazines. She has been profiled by Vice and was interviewed by Vogue Italy . She has had her work exhibited and then written about. Passes WP:ARTIST because her work "has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition." She also easily passes the general notabilty guidelines (WP:GNG) for any topic due to "significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject" which shows that there is signigicant interest in this person in several different countries. Lonehexagon (talk) 03:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Just a friendly reminder that interviews like the Vogue one above do not contribute to notability in these discussions, as they are not independent. See WP:RS if you would like to learn more about the types of references that do contribute to notability.104.163.147.121 (talk) 21:20, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * I didn't see anything about interviews in that link. I can understand that an interview wouldn't be considered a reliable source for facts, but I don't understand how interest from Vogue doesn't provide at least some evidence of notability. Could you point me to the relevant section? Lonehexagon (talk) 23:05, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Comment I have improved the article and I was wondering if you could take another look. Lonehexagon (talk) 03:40, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * You have done a good job of improving the article what we had (and the additional sources you found), but I'm not the source are enough IMHO. I've changed my vote to neutral: I could go either way, though I am leaning slightly on the delete side. Going back to Bischoff, we had some more substantive exhibition record, and non-interview reportage, and even there all we could get to was no consensus. That said, I DO believe that this one is probably TOOSOON, should not prevent future recreation if new events and materials emerge, and your worthwhile work should be Userfied to be improved over the next few years, and if she were to have a more substantive coverage, or exhibition, I would be happy for you to include that and we could try again. Theredproject (talk) 21:06, 29 March 2018 (UTC)
 * Thanks for your thoughts and insight. I appreciate it. Lonehexagon (talk) 23:05, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


 * Delete. that one appearance is not sufficient to show notability  as an artist. There's a difference between tabloid oriented coverage of performance art, and the real critical attention  needed for WP:CREATIVE.  DGG ( talk ) 05:19, 29 March 2018 (UTC)


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