Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diane Carr


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Eddie891 Talk Work 23:34, 24 March 2024 (UTC)

Diane Carr

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WP:BLP of an artist, not properly referenced as passing WP:NARTIST. The main notability claim here is that she and her work exist, which isn't automatically enough in the absence of sufficient third-party coverage about her and her work to clear WP:GNG -- but three of the four footnotes here are primary sources that are not support for notability at all, and the fourth is a single deadlinked newspaper article of purely local interest in the local newspaper of the city where she was living at the time, which is not enough to get her over GNG all by itself if it's the only reliable source in the mix. Additionally, this has recently undergone several days of vandalism by an anonymous IP who persistently blanked large portions of it, generally with claims that the stuff they were removing was "incorrect", but the quality of the referencing is so poor that I can't even sort out what's correct or not in the first place — none of the sourcing confirms any of the disputed facts, but none of it contradicts them either — and the IP may possibly have a conflict of interest to boot. Nothing stated here is "inherently" notable enough to exempt her from having to pass GNG on her sourceability. Bearcat (talk) 14:01, 10 March 2024 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  14:45, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Artists and United States of America. Bearcat (talk) 14:01, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and Michigan. Shellwood (talk) 15:51, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: New York, Pennsylvania,  and Washington, D.C..  WC  Quidditch   ☎   ✎  18:32, 10 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep (see below) and add morecites tag. The New York City transit artwork is sourced at the image page, so that source also exists (and sources for the artwork have been added after this nomination). Randy Kryn (talk) 13:35, 11 March 2024 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: I don't see anything about an artist with this name. Coverage used in the article appears minimal. Oaktree b (talk) 21:42, 17 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - Meets the very minimum for WP:ARTIST. Work is in the Detroit Institute of Arts and she was selected for an installation in the NYC subway. Research was a little confusing. There are two artists named Diane Carr. This one was born in Pittsburgh in 1946 (don't know HOW 1976 got in the article as birth year). This [|Diane Carr] is a Michigander. A sculptor and collector, but isn't notable (by our standards). I removed the incorrect categories on the article and condensed the text, especially where it looked like the two artists' biographies were conflated. Welcime a second pair of eyes to check that I haven't still got info on both. Thanks. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * OMG I am so confused, now I think the artist in DIA is the Michigander... gotta stop and get my facts straight. Sorry! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 01:39, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Comment My forensic research shows that this article was originally about the Detroit artist born in 1946. She is listed in VIAF and has work in the DIA. It looks like the page was hijacked on March 4, 2024 by an IP. The article was edited to be about the glass artist. It looks like the editor also hijacked the wikidata entry. I think the 1946 meets notability criteria. I think info about the glass artist should be merged into the article about Broadway station (BMT Astoria Line) as it is WP:TOOSOON for a stand alone article about her. I will be changing the article back to one about the 1946 artist. I will not invest too much time in this until I see some more pings here. Notifying nominator, and other participants and  for consensus that this is what has happened with this article. Also any suggestions for DAB. Thanks! --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 19:58, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Roll back to the 1946 artist, maybe protect the page as well. The glass artist is not notable, but if you want a mention in the article about the metro station, that's fine. Oaktree b (talk) 21:19, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Whatever you decide, thanks for the involved research. Randy Kryn (talk) 22:32, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * See User talk:24.228.119.117 for warning about disruptive editing. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 20:25, 21 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:HEY. I added an unusual hatnote in the hopes of preventing future hijacking. I left a third warning on the IP editor's page. --WomenArtistUpdates (talk) 00:36, 22 March 2024 (UTC)
 * Keep - as per discussion above, the article was hijacked and content replaced with that of a non-Wiki-notable artist born in 1976. The artist born in 1946 (the original subject of the article) is notable. Netherzone (talk) 08:55, 24 March 2024 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.