Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Diary of a Teenage Girl


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The result was   Nomination Withdrawn, per. UltraExactZZ Claims~ Evidence 18:06, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Diary of a Teenage Girl

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Fails the notability guideline for books, contested prod. Only references I can find are websites selling the book - as far as I can tell, it hasn't won any awards, been adapted into a film, been the subject of instruction at multiple schools, nor is the author notable enough to automatically warrant articles on each of her books. Somno (talk) 12:10, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * OK, the references below look good to me (hopefully they actually make it into the article ;), but I don't know if I can withdraw this nomination as I wasn't the editor who originally prodded it... Somno (talk) 13:40, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Literature-related deletion discussions.   — Cliff smith  talk  18:35, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Please note, per WP:N and WP:BK having reviews counts as sources.
 * http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-10676869_ITM
 * http://books.google.com/books?id=sHpBFqfSIr0C&pg=PA95&dq=%22Diary+of+a+Teenage+Girl%22+Melody+Carlson&ei=d0CgSLLdDoL2iQG7hZ36BA&sig=ACfU3U2DGQaD5qZseGCXYCTjmtB46d1j9A,
 * http://www.accessmylibrary.com/coms2/summary_0286-675822_ITM look fine. In addition, there are a number of books and articles about this out there.  Not all of them will be great sources for this article, but notability seems clear to me. Hobit (talk) 13:42, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * I think the second link's about the author and only mentions the book in passing? I suggest that's added as a reference to the author's page - she's definitely notable, but not necessarily her books. Do the book reviews have more content than just a plot summary? Somno (talk) 14:00, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * No details on the reviews, but given the sources I'd have to say they will have actual commentary. I only spent a few minutes on this. Given the raw number of hits on this (and books that discuss theses books) I strongly suspect the series is notable. Each book, probably not. Hobit (talk) 14:34, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * And: http://thebestreviews.com/review17341 looks good too. Hobit (talk) 14:38, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Does it matter if reviews are user-generated like this one (where anyone can post a review) or do they have to be published/literary reviews? It seems that a person could fill out several reviews like this on this site, amazon.com, etc. to generate as many "reviews" it takes to become "notable."  I do not believe that is the case with this specific review, but it seems there'd be a higher standard than this.  Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Those are not reviews. The first and third link are plot summaries.  The second mentions the author/series in passing. Still researching to determine my position on notability though. Wikiwikikid (talk) 15:29, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * http://thebestreviews.com/review17341 does look good though, and it looks like a site with editorial oversight. Hobit (talk) 18:33, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - Here are some reliable sources that provide notability for this series, obtained via the EBSCO database using my local public libraries web site. Perhaps the author of this article could get a list of the books in the series into the article?
 * Jones, Trevelyn E. et al. "It's My Life by Caitlin O'Connor (Book Review)." School Library Journal 47, no. 6;Abstract:Reviews the book `It's My Life by Caitlin O'Conner,' by Melody Carlson.
 * Riess, Jana. "ON MY OWN (Book)." Publishers Weekly 249, no. 24 (June 17, 2002): S22; Abstract:Reviews the book 'On My Own,' by Melody Carlson.
 * Beck, Linda et al. "On My Own (Book)." School Library Journal 48, no. 9 (September 2002): 220; Abstract:Reviews the book 'On My Own: By Caitlin O'Conner,' by Melody Carlson.
 * Lamb, Holly Ward. "Finding God's Way." Voice of Youth Advocates 26, no. 5 (December 2003): 384-385; Abstract: Reviews the book "On My Own," by Melody Carlson.
 * "Books in Brief." Publishers Weekly 255, no. 22 (June 02, 2008): S9-S9.;Abstract: The article reviews several books including "The Rook," by Steven James, "A Not-So-Simple Life," by Melody Carlson and "Love Tornado," by Mable John and David Ritz.
 * Miller, Heather E. et al. "Just Ask." School Library Journal 51, no. 12 (December 2005): 142-142; Abstract:The article reviews the book "Just Ask," by Melody Carlson. --Captain-tucker (talk) 19:06, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep good job captain tucker. Wikiwikikid (talk) 19:08, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment Agreed. Much nicer than what I found.  Hobit (talk) 19:12, 11 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep. Captain Tucker's sources trump any claims of non-notability. 23skidoo (talk) 20:04, 11 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Weak Keep While I have my doubts on some of the other sources as being valid for use by an encyclopedia, the Publishers' Weekly review swings my !vote. Brilliantine (talk) 14:31, 12 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep per Captain Tucker. Maxamegalon2000 05:17, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


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