Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dicky Moore


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep. Many of the keep comments fail to make policy-based arguments, but there's certainly no consensus to delete, and I'm not going to lose any sleep over the difference between closing this as keep vs NC. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:34, 10 September 2020 (UTC)

Dicky Moore

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Notability is in question here. A search for "Dicky Moore Bearcraft" (the band that he is involved in that redirects to him) wields two results, one of which is a competition and the other of which is an independent music zine - searching Dicky Moore Yestreen (his only solo work) yields the exact same two results - which leads me to believe the subject isn't notable. He doesn't fulfil any of the WP:MUSIC notability guidelines from what I can see, and the sources for this article are passing mentions of him, blogs and dead links. ser! (let's discuss it). 22:08, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. ser! (let's discuss it). 22:08, 11 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 22:17, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Keep as notability is met due to involvment with Scritti Politti. timing is funny because the other band he is involved with is currently active if you search for it. DaneBelroseDane (talk) 14:27, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * There's no precedent for keeping articles for members of bands just because the band itself is notable. If you check the notabiblity guidelines for music it specifically says that 'members of notable bands are redirected to the band's article, not given individual articles, unless they have demonstrated individual notability for activity independent of the band, such as solo releases', and Moore has not demonstrated individual notability here. As for his other band, active they may be but not notable. ser! (let's discuss it). 17:41, 13 August 2020 (UTC)

Keep as notability is met due to nomination for a Mercury award, Is a musician who has been a reasonably prominent member of two or more independently notable ensembles (such as Scritti Polliti and Frank Sidebottom's band) also has performed music for a work of media that is notable for television work. scriven_j (talk) 3:20, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Moore has never received a nomination for a Mercury award - even if his band has, being one member of a band that has received a nomination for an award and not won it does not make him inherently notable. His notability needs to be determined on his own merits rather than falling to the arguments of WP:INHERITED, i.e ‘a band he is in is notable so he has to be’. As for composing for a work of media - he’s composed pieces for a non-notable TV show, a non-notable podcast and a non-notable movie. ser! (let's discuss it). 09:41, 14 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Scritti Politti. Notability is not inherited. The only citation on the page that is really about Moore is on a blog, so not a reliable source. This fails the GNG. --Slashme (talk) 12:17, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep biographies of a musician who has been the member of two or more notable bands are usually kept as per criteria 6 of WP:NMUSIC, and he does have some solo work such as an EP and television and film soundtracks/themes, in my view Atlantic306 (talk) 23:40, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: for reference, the TV and film soundtracks were added after the deletion was proposed. Still, these films themselves are not notable enough to come under this notability rule in my eyes: the "TV Series" is actually a completely unnotable YouTube series, the movie and other TV series haven't attracted enough coverage to be notable under Wikipedia's own rules for their respective projects. I would be more satisfied to see this stay if there was literally any WP:SIGCOV of Mr Moore but there appears to be none, and the only reference that is actually about him is a blog, and thus not a reliable source. ser! (let's discuss it). 13:27, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The web series may be notable as in the article it is referenced to an article in the Independent directly about it and the TT series may also be notable considering it aired on ITV4, imv Atlantic306 (talk) 19:59, 16 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Salvio 09:15, 19 August 2020 (UTC) Keep I found an interview which was not referenced in the article (have added it now - http://www.aaamusic.co.uk/2010/08/07/bearcraft/) which might count towards WP:SIGCOV? scriven_j (talk) 13:13, 20 August 2020 (UTC)
 * User:scriven_j: please don't add new 'keep' votes when you have already voted. Add as a comment instead to avoid any confusion. Nevertheless, I can't bring myself to see this as an indicator of significant coverage because it seems to be the only article solely about the subject itself that isn't a blog, indicating a severe lack of coverage and notability as thus. ser! (let's discuss it). 13:48, 20 August 2020 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Improper second vote struck. Stifle (talk) 15:57, 27 August 2020 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 15:28, 29 August 2020 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.