Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Die Abrechnung


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The result was   delete. Shimeru (talk) 04:11, 10 April 2010 (UTC)

Die Abrechnung

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Non-notable song —Justin (koavf)❤T☮C☺M☯ 07:17, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Yep. A diss track, not part of any album, allmusic |FRESH&sql=11:dpfoxqwdldse~T3 doesn't even list it, no significant coverage of the song in reliable sources, according to google news – fails WP:NSONGS. Apparently there was some controversy around it, but only very minor. A redirect to Eko Fresh is probably warranted though. Amalthea  11:13, 25 March 2010 (UTC)


 * The song and the response by Kool Savas had massive coverage on German MTV and VIVA (another TV-music channel). Even regular newscasts reported about this controversy, since the response showed an Eko Fresh Look-A-Like getting put to grave (which was new in German rap). Apart from Savas there where a couple of other response tracks by notable German rappers Fler, Bushido (rapper),… The song itself is most possible notable, but that is not an article. --Blunt. (talk) 14:25, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Hmm, alright. But that still sounds like the song is only noteworthy as part of the larger "dispute"? A fine line, but I don't really see any in-depth coverage of it, and we don't have any verifiable material either. Consequently, with the dispute spanning more issues than the song, it should be kept at Eko Fresh and/or Kool Savas, in my opinion, with the song redirecting to the former.  Amalthea  14:41, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Well, the song was also relevant for the relationship between Eko and Bushido, who later signed Eko to his label ersguterjunge, as Eko called Bushido "Muschido" ("Muschi" is German for vagina). Only the first part aims at Savas, the rest aims at most other German rappers which where popular at that time (Fler, Sido, MC Rene, Sentence, B-Tight, Kaput, Nikkon, Costa, Armar – Mostly Aggro Berlin or Optik Records "staff" at that time). The topic is rather complex. But the current article doesn't explain anything, so lets delete this one. We would need another article, which covers German or rather Berlins Hip-Hop beef between 2004 and 2009 (I wouldn't write it) Blunt. (talk) 15:49, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 16:03, 25 March 2010 (UTC)
 * Strong delete. Merge to Eko Fresh vs. Kool Savas feud, or merge to Eko Fresh and/or Kool Savas and delete Eko Fresh vs. Kool Savas feud as well. Nageh (talk) 09:09, 1 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment: Which are you for, merge or delete? Merge and delete is not a valid resolution because the public license requires that attribution be preserved. &mdash; Gwalla | Talk 02:56, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Oh, well, there is no problem rewriting that little information that is in within one of the other articles I have cited. Delete. Nageh (talk) 07:21, 2 April 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, JForget  00:47, 2 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
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