Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Differences between book and film versions of Eragon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was DELETE. NO sources found or even indicated in the debate, thus OR -Docg 01:30, 16 January 2007 (UTC)

Differences between book and film versions of Eragon

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This article is basically a list of the ways in which various editors feel the film differs from the book. Seeing as there are no sources listed whatsoever, everything in the article is original research and inherently unverifiable. This isn't even taking into account the fact that the article is just a series of huge lists, whose points are often redundantly repeated throughout the different sections for no apparent reason. Even if it didn't violate WP:V or WP:NOR I still would have my doubts about the necessity of having gigantic lists of differences in a separate article when a short summary on the article for the movie itself could easily suffice. DarthVader1219 10:31, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete - unsourced original research. MER-C 12:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete It's original research, as well as an indiscriminate list of trivia. Leebo 86 13:49, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete too many differences to list, even if the topic were encyclopaedic, which it isn't. Maybe a few of them could live in the article on the film, if sourced externally, but that's about it. Guy (Help!) 13:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with either the article on the novel or the article on the film. I take issue with this talk about the list being "unsourced" as clearly the primary sources are the film and the novel. However, some of these items (such as eye color) are simply too trivial, and the film itself is not significant enough to warrant a separate article on the differences. 23skidoo 14:43, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge Yeah, there are always lots of differences between books and film adaptations. Edison 15:51, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete or Merge The topic could be notable. Nevertheless, in its current state, most of the information appears to be OR and violated WP:V. TSO1D 18:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Drastically pare down and merge with main film article. At most, this article should be reduced to a couple of paragraphs, then merged. Some of the "differences" listed here are OR analysis, others utterly trivial. Surely SOME of these differences are significant but I wasn't willing to wade through the hundreds of insignificant ones to find them! Venicemenace 18:39, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge Non-notable topic. Xiner (talk, email) 19:36, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Is there a book written on this topic? Is it the subject of any newspaper articles?  Is it extensively discussed by notable commentators in any well-known blogs?  No?  Then it is original research and should be deleted without much ado.  Whenever I see a paragraph in a film/book article that collects what various editors think the "theme" is, or feel the work's cultural antecedents might be, I tend to delete them as wikipedia is not the place for editors' essays, however interesting or "True" the observations might be.-- Dmz5  *Edits**Talk* 20:22, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. An indescriminate collection of information in violation of WP:NOT. Indrian 21:25, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment: I would like to point out to those voting to merge it that there is nothing in the entire article within the bounds of WP:V to merge. You can't use the movie and book as sources because they do not state within themselves the differences between them. To figure the differences out for yourself is classic original research. As an example of another article where this same scenario came into play, I'd like to point out The Lord of the Rings film trilogy. There are many differences between the book and the movie, some quite as notable as any made between the Eragon book and movie. However, there is no unsourced list of said differences. Instead there is a section detailing the reaction to the changes, which mentions some of the more notable ones in the process. If there are no reliable sources decrying the differences between the two versions of Eragon or even mentioning them than there is no justification for this list's inclusion regardless of how much it could be pared or what article it could be merged into. DarthVader1219 21:34, 10 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete and do not merge. This is all original research using the movie and book as  sources to derive a conclusion. -- Whpq 17:45, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete as original research. However, a much smaller section of notable differences would probably be appropriate in the film's article assuming a source can be found. BryanG(talk) 22:36, 11 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete not nearly notable enough for an article NBeale 22:24, 14 January 2007 (UTC)
 * Pare down and merge maybe a couple of the major differences could be included in the main article, but this is a large amount of OR. Crisco 1492 06:31, 15 January 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.