Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dilston College


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. (non-admin closure) Alpha_Quadrant    (talk)  00:05, 15 December 2011 (UTC)

Dilston College

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One giant advert for an establishment that fails to assert any notability.  Lugnuts  (talk) 18:36, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Rescue - Colleges, like high schools, tend to be notable in and of themselves. The article certainly needs a lot of improvement, but deletion seems unhelpful. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 19:17, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * But it's not actually a college. Lots of organisations have the word college in their name, but are not true colleges (of further eduction - IE post 16 learning). A rescue tag still doesn't distract from this articles' lack of any real notability.  Lugnuts  (talk) 19:54, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * For reference, here is their Ofsted report and here is their entry on a Connexions website. I think that WP:NHS and WP:OUTCOMES would suggest that if it is a higher education institute, it should probably have an article. Dilston seems to satisfy this. ItsZippy (talk • contributions) 21:21, 7 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Every educational institute will have an Ofstead report and links from referale agencies, such as Connexions.  Lugnuts  (talk) 07:43, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:32, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 00:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete - not a "real" college - it is a school to assist those with learning disabilities. Of which there are tens of thousands worldwide. --Legis (talk - contribs) 07:33, 8 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep -- This article arose from some one vandalising Dilston Castle, a ruin that stands in the grounds. I rescued both by creating this article (or it may have been re-creating the other).  I take the view that this is not just any school.  It is the national college of Mencap, which is the leading British charity in the field.  I cannot accept that there are 10,000 of similar institutions.  The entry on the Connexions website indicates that it is dealing with an age range in tertiary education (16-25).  The website places it alongside 26 other schools and colleges in the Northeast, which are willing and able to deal with teenagers and young adults with special educational needs, all apparently High Schools or tertiary colleges.  We allow articles on all High Schools, and I do not see where this differs.  Peterkingiron (talk) 18:32, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep, per our usual practice for secondary schools and above. As a disabled person I find the claim that a college for people with disabilities is not "real" breathtaking. This is the 21st century, not the 19th. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:47, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * The article still fails to provide a single third-party reliable source to indicate any notability. It doesn't get its funds from the govenment agency that allocates FE funding, hence not being a "real" college. You say you are a "disabled person" - shouldn't that be a person with a disability? Welcome to the 21st century.  Lugnuts  (talk) 20:07, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * I reserve the right not to use euphemisms to describe myself. FE funding doesn't come into this, because this school is the equivalent of a secondary school, not a further education college. Phil Bridger (talk) 21:44, 9 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Still zero sources stating notability though. Thanks for your help in expanding the article.  Lugnuts  (talk) 09:50, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Note that topic notability is based upon the availability of reliable sources, and not whether or not they currently exist in Wikipedia articles. Northamerica1000 (talk) 08:08, 12 December 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep As notable as a High School.  D r e a m Focus  18:26, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep As per the consensus above.  I found four good references in the edit history edit comments:
 * http://www.journallive.co.uk/north-east-news/todays-news/2011/11/03/dilston-college-students-to-run-hexham-station-refreshments-stall-61634-29710461
 * http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/news-at-a-glance/dilston-students-earn-rugby-lesson-from-jonny-1.564146
 * http://www.journallive.co.uk/northumberland-sites/prudhoe-northumberland/prudhoe-news/2011/01/25/prudhoe-co-op-staff-raising-funds-for-mencap-61634-28051907
 * http://www.hexhamcourant.co.uk/news/news-at-a-glance/d-oscars-showcase-local-talent-1.863085

Unscintillating (talk) 22:53, 10 December 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Colleges are inherently notable, and there are plenty of references to create a start class article with inline citations. --DThomsen8 (talk) 16:11, 13 December 2011 (UTC)
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