Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Dimitrova, Desislava


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The result was   delete. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 00:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Dimitrova, Desislava

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I've tried to search with her name in Cyrillic and using Chrome to translate, but can't find evidence she meets our notability criteria (maybe the 'Grand Prix' thing qualifies her, but I can't verify it. Note that her article on the Bulgarian Wikipedia has no sources, despite an AfD going on (for reasons other than notability it seems). The actual text in the article looks like machine translation and probably copyvio. Dougweller (talk) 14:17, 16 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete with kudos to nominator for doing good legwork to show she does not appear to be notable. Note its a self-created article, as she identifies herself as the author of the bg-wiki article in that AfD discussion.  I agree its likely a machine translation as "his" will usually show up in such translations from Bulgarian (among other languages) even when talking about female subjects, as it does here.  Though, my favorite mysterious line is "Manipulation is her amploa."  I think "amploa" is someone's attempt to fix up "амплоа", which means talent in Bulgarian.--Milowent • talkblp-r  03:38, 17 June 2011 (UTC)
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 * Comment. A note of caution for those searching in Cyrillic with out being able to read Bulgarian: there are several people with the name Десислава Димитрова who turn up much more often in searches than the article subject, including an ethnologist and a deputy health minister. Phil Bridger (talk) 19:19, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 01:19, 23 June 2011 (UTC)




 * Comment - Manipulation is her amploa. is one of the classic lines at AfD... And I'm saying that because of the dexterity of her hands, not the sexy look. This is pretty clearly a machine translation that needs work. And Wikification. And sourcing. One would think that to find what's out there in terms of sources, one needs to look up the Cyrillic translit of "Sheharazade." But I can't even spell that in the Latin alphabet. I'll see if I can work that out... Carrite (talk) 05:05, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Десислава Димитрова Шехерезада. Carrite (talk) 05:08, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Here's NOVA TELEVISION with a bit from the "първата българска жена-илюзионист" (First Bulgarian Female Illusionist). Carrite (talk) 05:12, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * I don't know if BulFoto Internet Photo Agency counts, but THEY'VE GOT PIX of Димитрова-Шехерезада doing her amploa. Carrite (talk) 05:17, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Searching MACEDONIAN TIME MAGAZINE'S website for "магия" generated a link to the Nova Television bit with the URL above. Carrite (talk) 05:27, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * The Bulgarian WP AfD relates to lack of sourcing on a BLP, which I suppose is a valid rationale here as well. It also seems to be a Conflict of Interest situation in terms of authorship. Carrite (talk) 05:33, 23 June 2011 (UTC)


 * Delete without prejudice - I think with sufficient effort there may well be enough sourcing out there to defend this, but my Russian is bad, which makes my Bulgarian comical... This article is a catastrophe in terms of style. The easy call is to delete it as an unsourced BLP with self-written overtones, which is the way the Bulgarian Wikipedia is handling the thing. On the other hand, I do think that Dimitrova-Shekherezada verges on being a public figure in Bulgaria and that if sources aren't extant currently (they may well be), there are apt to be independent and substantial sources out there soon. A deletion now shouldn't preclude a new page at that time. This is a really close call on notability. Carrite (talk) 05:41, 23 June 2011 (UTC) Last edit: Carrite (talk) 05:50, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment If kept, the article needs a Rename.Curb Chain (talk) 13:27, 23 June 2011 (UTC)
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